Kanye West Interrupts Taylor Swift's Speech at MTV VMA's

[Senusret I]

I am so sick of the Kanye West dick-riding in this thread and in real life.

You know what's really irrelevant? A non-Greek posting this damn much on GreekChat.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I am so sick of the Kanye West dick-riding in this thread and in real life.

You know what's really irrelevant? A non-Greek posting this damn much on GreekChat.

OH SNAP.

I rebuke whomever clowns Wu-Tang. They ain't nuthin to F--- WITH!!!!!

[BabyPiNK_FL]

As far as the debate on Taylor's song content-I'm not really satisfied with it. Her target audience sure is though. But I can't listen to her talk about how "unattractive" she is because at the end of the day she can take off the glasses and nerdy clothes (which didn't make her ugly anyway) and still be gorgeous, a lot of her fans probably can't do that. It's just repetitive. But the songs are cute and catchy.

I love Kanye. I feel bad for Taylor. But Kanye makes a large portion of my late musical world go round and I believe that his work will span more time overall as it is musically creative and very "out there".

He shouldn't have interrupted, but it's not like he hasn't done it before. People were cheering when he did it (if you listen) and then when Taylor made that face (they should have let her finish-MTV did NOT help!) it all went down hill from there. His behavior deserves no excuse, but it's not like he's never done it before-it's Kanye being Kanye.

He just happpened to do it to a young teenage girl who looks like a Christmas Angel and makes really good sad faces and I don't think people will every get over that soon, not even me to some extent. I think if it had been almost anyone else, we wouldn't be talking about it THIS much, especially not in this way.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

As far as the debate on Taylor's song content-I'm not really satisfied with it. Her target audience sure is though. But I can't listen to her talk about how "unattractive" she is because at the end of the day she can take off the glasses and nerdy clothes (which didn't make her ugly anyway) and still be gorgeous, a lot of her fans probably can't do that. It's just repetitive. But the songs are cute and catchy.

I love Kanye. I feel bad for Taylor. But Kanye makes a large portion of my late musical world go round and I believe that his work will span more time overall as it is musically creative and very "out there".

He shouldn't have interrupted, but it's not like he hasn't done it before. People were cheering when he did it (if you listen) and then when Taylor made that face (they should have let her finish-MTV did NOT help!) it all went down hill from there. His behavior deserves no excuse, but it's not like he's never done it before-it's Kanye being Kanye.

He just happpened to do it to a young teenage girl who looks like a Christmas Angel and makes really good sad faces and I don't think people will every get over that soon, not even me to some extent. I think if it had been almost anyone else, we wouldn't be talking about it THIS much, especially not in this way.

Well said.

For the record, it is particularly odd to me how people seem to be more outraged by this whole ordeal than they were about how Joe Wilson conducted himself the other night. Wonder why HIS butt wasn't kicked out like Kanye?

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Well said.

For the record, it is particularly odd to me how people seem to be more outraged by this whole ordeal than they were about how Joe Wilson conducted himself the other night. Wonder why HIS butt wasn't kicked out like Kanye?

Sorry, but you're really stretching things here. People are pretty outraged about what Wilson said...have you seen some of the comments and news commentaries about it? Wasn't there also a story about how one of his potential opponents raised a ridiculous amount of money after the remark?

ETA: Here's a sample of the anti-Wilson commentary: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...ublican-antics. If you read some of the 500+ comments, you'll see that people are fairly outraged about what he said.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Sorry, but you're really stretching things here. People are pretty outraged about what Wilson said...have you seen some of the comments and news commentaries about it? Wasn't there also a story about how one of his potential opponents raised a ridiculous amount of money after the remark?

ETA: Here's a sample of the anti-Wilson commentary: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...ublican-antics. If you read some of the 500+ comments, you'll see that people are fairly outraged about what he said.

People donated to Wilson's opponent almost immediately and are still commenting on his outburst.

rant/

I think it's dumb that people are immediately supporting an opponent who they know little to nothing about JUST BECAUSE Wilson yelled "that's a lie!" Knee jerk reactions are always dumb.

Michael Baisden is one media figure who has been outspoken about Wilson and has donated to his opponent. Coincidentally, Baisden can't seem to get either of their names straight on aire. Either way, he and his crew are headed to S.C. in support of Wilson's opponent. Sounds like how they rallied people for Jena, LA. That massive family reunion was a huge fail after the fish fry grease dried up and folks began to realize that the Jena, as INDIVIDUALS, are nothing to rally behind.

/rant

[SydneyK]

I didn't see the VMA, and have seen only the brief clip of the incident. I hadn't really planned to comment on this because it means so little to me. However, I just had to say something when I got to this...

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

His behavior deserves no excuse, but it's not like he's never done it before-it's Kanye being Kanye.

Ugh. This line always bothers me. If his behavior doesn't deserve an excuse, then why are you giving him one? Just because he's Kanye doesn't mean he is exempt from basic manners. Because he's done it before we're supposed to just nod him along saying, "Oh, it's just Kanye being Kanye." Please.

It'd be like giving OJ a pass if he kills someone [else] because, well, it's just OJ being OJ, and it's not like he's never done it before. (Yes, I understand that what Kanye did is in a completely different ballpark than what OJ got away with. I'm just using it as an example of why "Person X is just being Person X" is an illogical justification for anything.)

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

Ugh. This line always bothers me. If his behavior doesn't deserve an excuse, then why are you giving him one? Just because he's Kanye doesn't mean he is exempt from basic manners. Because he's done it before we're supposed to just nod him along saying, "Oh, it's just Kanye being Kanye." Please.

It'd be like giving OJ a pass if he kills someone [else] because, well, it's just OJ being OJ, and it's not like he's never done it before. (Yes, I understand that what Kanye did is in a completely different ballpark than what OJ got away with. I'm just using it as an example of why "Person X is just being Person X" is an illogical justification for anything.)

iDied @ the bolded

I don't want to come off looking like a Kanye groupie, but people are making this into more than what it should be. Kanye has interrupted awards shows before. He's spoken his mind at inopportune moments. This is not new (and not even the worst thing he's done). People are acting like they've never seen this from him before.

Plus, they're talking about how he picked on this "poor, defenseless little girl." Taylor is 19 and in the music industry. I'm sure she can fend for herself.

[Xanthus]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

It'd be like giving OJ a pass if he kills someone [else] because, well, it's just OJ being OJ, and it's not like he's never done it before. (Yes, I understand that what Kanye did is in a completely different ballpark than what OJ got away with. I'm just using it as an example of why "Person X is just being Person X" is an illogical justification for anything.)

OJ's a douche. I know everyone is on a different topic, but back to Kanye West for a second. I don't agree with what he did, but give the guy a break. He was shit faced. How many of us have been shit faced before and acted in a way we regretted later?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Xanthus

How many of us have been shit faced before and acted in a way we regretted later?

[Xanthus]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Dude, you need to use a better emoticon. That one makes you look kind of feminine, don'tcha think?

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Xanthus

How many of us have been shit faced before and acted in a way we regretted later?

Sure, alot of people have.

However, we are not on TV.

We are also not celebrities.

The whole "give him a break" thing goes out the window when dumb things are done in public and you are a person who is considered to be famous.

[Xanthus]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Sure, alot of people have.

However, we are not on TV.

We are also not celebrities.

The whole "give him a break" thing goes out the window when dumb things are done in public and you are a person who is considered to be famous.

I'm aware of that, and I don't agree with what he did. I believe if he had issues with that chick winning the award he should have addressed it with the decision maker, not her, because it wasn't her decision. I'm just saying that the same people bitching about his actions are the same people who have acted in the same way (in public), after having too much to drink. I know, because I've done it on a few occasions myself. With this whole celeb and tv thing, a lot of the news media who are covering this and other things news related are getting to the point where they're "making" the news, not telling it. They're more like entertainers themselves to me. Rush is a good example of that.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally Posted by Xanthus

How many of us have been shit faced before and acted in a way we regretted later?

Hee, guilty. I'll be in Vegas next month, too.