Kanye West Interrupts Taylor Swift's Speech at MTV VMA's

[knight_shadow]

She is relevant. She's one of the biggest stars of the past year.

Kanye has been out a while longer. He's more critically acclaimed. He has more crossover fans than she does. To say he is irrelevant is naive.

This little episode thrust her further into the limelight.

[agzg]

I'd rather talk about Dwayne Wayne.

Dwayne Wayne > (Kanye + Taylor Swift)

[Kappamd]

Originally Posted by agzg

I'd rather talk about Dwayne Wayne.

Dwayne Wayne > (Kanye + Taylor Swift)

Seriously.

Taylor=relevant. Kanye=relevant. For different reasons, different music, and to different people. Neither "made" the other relevant. Let's move on.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by tld221

She's not completely irrelevant. Anyone who listens to their local top 40 station will hear both of their music within the hour. And there were lots of people who didnt know who Kanye was before that whole "George Bush doesnt care about black people" bit.

Fans of her music and career know who Taylor Swift is. Ditto for Kanye. whether the audiences overlap, probably not much.

This, coming from someone who also didnt know she sang the song she won the award for. I didnt know half the songs Lady Gaga was responsible for - does that make her irrelevant, though she's had a couple of this past year's hits?

Almost every artist at the start of their career is irrelevant. The point here is that on the scale of relevant to pop music to irrelevant Taylor falls on the irrelevant side. If she quit music on Aug. 15th, 2009 there wouldn't be very much talk about it (there would be some, but not much) whereas if Kanye West quit music there would be a whole lot of talk. My saying she is irrelevant is not to take a dig at her. Im not saying she has no importance at all I am saying that in the scheme of pop music and pop culture she is not particularly special or important. She wouldn't have gone down in MTV history for her win. Beyonce, Kanye West, Jay-Z, Madonna, U2, Michael Jackson are all major acts and extremely relevant to pop culture and will be talked about for years to come. Taylor Swift (if she doesnt do anything else) will be mentioned because Kanye spazzed during her speech.

[tld221]

^^ lol

and ive got a spinoff thread coming from this.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I don't like Taylor Swift because I don't like the message in some of her songs. Okay well the one song I was forced to listen to about Romeo and Juliet, and I think there should be better messages than sneaking around with some dude and then marrying him, and the white dress comment. Why can't young women be successful and do something other than waiting for some dude their dad doesn't like to ask for their hand in marriage? We should be involved in the decision to get married and not wait for some dude and be a "princess" and Taylor Swift should also take a literature class because Shakespeare's play did NOT have a happy ending!

Well, in all fairness, she wrote that song when she was probably 17 or 18 years old. Actually, she's admitted to using We The Kings' song "Check Yes Juliet" as inspiration for it. I also think it's very similar in theme to "She's in Love with the Boy" by Tricia Yearwood. I still love that song.

[tld221]

i wanna see what he says on Leno.

[Kappamd]

I think there was an apology in there somewhere?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by agzg

I'd rather talk about Dwayne Wayne.

Dwayne Wayne > (Kanye + Taylor Swift)

I think I still love Charmaine.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

American Music Awards 2
BET Awards 7
BET Hip Hop Awards 2
Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop Awards 2
BRIT Awards 3
Grammy Awards 12
GQ Awards 2
MOBO Awards 5
MTV Europe Music Awards 1
MTV Video Music Awards 2
NAACP Image Awards 1
Teen Choice Awards 1
Vibe Awards 2
World Music Awards 2
Total Awards won 42

It is not a waste of money because he is talented. Taylor, until yesterday and Kanye, was not very relevant. Most people did not know who she was. Many people in this thread and elsewhere have said "I didnt know she sang that song." So in the scheme of relevance in music she was basically irrelevant. As compared to Kanye she's (or was) a nobody.

Anyone who listens to any country music station or Top 40 station knows who Taylor Swift is, just like they know who Kanye is. Top 40 stations have been playing her songs for about two years now. And in case you didn't know, VMAs are voted on by the viewers...so obviously plenty of people know who Taylor Swift is!

[agzg]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

Im not saying she has no importance at all

To say that someone is irrelevant is to say that they are of no importance at all. Well, actually it's to say that she has nothing to do with the matter at hand. The matter, being the VMAs, I'm assuming. Or famous. Either way, she has one or she is. Therefore, she is relevant.

Of course, this is just semantics.

[cheerfulgreek]

He's on the Jay Leno show right now. I watched him and he seemed to be very sorry for his actions. He said he realized he made a huge mistake right after he gave the microphone back to her.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I think I still love Charmaine.

What if Charmaine had been in Taylor Swift's shoes? I don't think she ever would have stopped talking.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by agzg

What if Charmaine had been in Taylor Swift's shoes? I don't think she ever would have stopped talking.

LOL

She sure as hell would've finished her speech.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

LOL

She sure as hell would've finished her speech.

Maybe she would have had Mr. Gaines give him a talking to.

OMG now I have the theme song, "Hungry Eyes", and "Through the Wire" stuck in my head. Oh geez - don't ask me how my head hasn't exploded.