Protestors carry firearms near Presidential speech

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

And he was carrying a gun because.......?

At the time he was working for a firearm store and so he always carried his gun on him when he was out and about running errands on his lunch break.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

At the time he was working for a firearm store and so he always carried his gun on him when he was out and about running errands on his lunch break.

yeah..I always keep a gun while I run errands....there is still no reason that you are making apparent as to why he was at a Bush (or anybody) speech with a firearm that makes what you said relevant to this discussion.

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I don't even see why you feel like you have to offer these reasons. Anyone with an ounce of common sense would understand why THIS weapon would draw media coverage as opposed to the hangdun my friend was carrying in his holster. Kevin's question concerning that is really just absurd.

Ummm...if you see above, in one of my posts there are 2 different people who went armed to these rallies...however, the gent with the sidearm was interviewed...so...pound for pound, he got more coverage.

heh.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

yeah..I always keep a gun while I run errands....there is still no reason that you are making apparent as to why he was at a Bush (or anybody) speech with a firearm that makes what you said relevant to this discussion.



Ummm...if you see above, in one of my posts there are 2 different people who went armed to these rallies...however, the gent with the sidearm was interviewed...so...pound for pound, he got more coverage.

heh.

It's quite relevant in that it shows that the secret service did not allow him to remain in the area for security purposes. So one has to wonder why they allowed it in this instance. Security may get more intense for a President, but it won't get any more lax than the basics.


As for your sarcastic comment about him having it while he was running errands, it is not unheard of for people if they are used to carrying something every day and there is an instance where they are supposed to take it off and they forget to would sit here and try to act as though that is bizarre just shows that you want to be difficult.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

It's quite relevant in that it shows that the secret service did not allow him to remain in the area for security purposes. So one has to wonder why they allowed it in this instance. Security may get more intense for a President, but it won't get any more lax than the basics.


As for your sarcastic comment about him having it while he was running errands, it is not unheard of for people if they are used to carrying something every day and there is an instance where they are supposed to take it off and they forget to would sit here and try to act as though that is bizarre just shows that you want to be difficult.

So he forgot that he was going to be in the vicinity of the President and forgot to take his gun off?

I'm not being difficult, just trying to see the relevance of what you had to say in the greater body of the thread.


If you answering that is difficult, I will leave you be for now.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

So he forgot that he was going to be in the vicinity of the President and forgot to take his gun off?

I'm not being difficult, just trying to see the relevance of what you had to say in the greater body of the thread.


If you answering that is difficult, I will leave you be for now.

I have already answered that. I'm not sure why you are still experiencing confusion or why you have difficulty seeing the relevance.

And like I said, when he went out to see the president, it was a matter of just standing outside to catch a glimpse as bush left. So yes, he forgot to leave the gun in the car. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I have already answered that. I'm not sure why you are still experiencing confusion or why you have difficulty seeing the relevance.

And like I said, when he went out to see the president, it was a matter of just standing outside to catch a glimpse as bush left. So yes, he forgot to leave the gun in the car. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?

Your friend carrying a gun to a get a glimpse of Bush and just so happened to forget to remove it = No relevance to this topic whatsoever.



people who purposefully carry guns to protest their rights to bear arms = Relevance.

get it?

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Your friend carrying a gun to a get a glimpse of Bush and just so happened to forget to remove it = No relevance to this topic whatsoever.



people who purposefully carry guns to protest their rights to bear arms = Relevance.

get it?

It was relevant with respect to the point that I was talking about.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

And like I said, when he went out to see the president, it was a matter of just standing outside to catch a glimpse as bush left. So yes, he forgot to leave the gun in the car. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?

Because the story is so stupid as to be hilariously irrelevant . . . to the point that it feels contrived?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Because the story is so stupid as to be hilariously irrelevant . . . to the point that it feels contrived?

Thanks!

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Because the story is so stupid as to be hilariously irrelevant . . . to the point that it feels contrived?

Not even close.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

So he forgot that he was going to be in the vicinity of the President and forgot to take his gun off?

Many people who carry a gun on them do it just because they can...they're strong believers in the right to carry and feel that if that right is taken for granted, no one will miss it when it's gone. Anyway, the 2nd Amendment was intended to protect the rights of people to protect themselves against the government. Maybe he was carrying the gun to protect himself against the President, eh?

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Many people who carry a gun on them do it just because they can...they're strong believers in the right to carry and feel that if that right is taken for granted, no one will miss it when it's gone. Anyway, the 2nd Amendment was intended to protect the rights of people to protect themselves against the government. Maybe he was carrying the gun to protect himself against the President, eh?

You're right, but DS was deliberately being difficult. I stated that this friend worked for a firearm store, was used to having his gun holstered on his belt all day, and forgot to take it off. He definitely believes in his right to carry, but at that particular time, he wasn't carrying it just because he could. He was on lunch break from work and trying to catch a quick glimpse of the president. The point I was originally making was that he was asked by the secret service to leave when they saw the gun, and so I didn't understand why these men in Arizona weren't asked to leave the area with their guns.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

You're right, but DS was deliberately being difficult. I stated that this friend worked for a firearm store, was used to having his gun holstered on his belt all day, and forgot to take it off. He definitely believes in his right to carry, but at that particular time, he wasn't carrying it just because he could. He was on lunch break from work and trying to catch a quick glimpse of the president. The point I was originally making was that he was asked by the secret service to leave when they saw the gun, and so I didn't understand why these men in Arizona weren't asked to leave the area with their guns.

It might have been the number of people carrying. Also Obama might have told them not to. I'm these guys were being watched like hawks the entire the President was in the open.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

He was on lunch break from work and trying to catch a quick glimpse of the president.

So he wasn't just in the vicinity, like the guy with rifle in Phoenix. If he was close enough to "catch a quick glimpse" he was also close enough to fire a shot. That, I'm guessing, is why the secret service took interest.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Many people who carry a gun on them do it just because they can...they're strong believers in the right to carry and feel that if that right is taken for granted, no one will miss it when it's gone. Anyway, the 2nd Amendment was intended to protect the rights of people to protect themselves against the government. Maybe he was carrying the gun to protect himself against the President, eh?

Peppy

I got that part just fine... I am cool with that, but in the point that DI was attempting to make, it bears no relevance on the fact that you had people who deliberatly chose to arm themselves and ALSO PROMINENTLY DISPLAY said arms at a protest.

THEY.WANTED.THE.ATTENTION.


That's a whole helluvalot different than someone who was carrying their firearm like most people carry hoiuse keys.

Her friend was not there protesting anything. The person was there just because they wanted a glimpse of the president....that doesn't have anything to do with the main idea of the thread.

DI

And if I was being so dayumed difficult, why keep trying? You know better.

Unless your lil friend works in Arizona or NH or some jurisdiction similar to what happened above and had a beef with being asked to leave...he certainly at that point had a right to protest.