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Old 08-18-2009, 08:00 PM
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What you are seeing is more likely than not a purposeful paying of attention to some protesters and not others in an effort to essentially slander/libel everyone who doesn't agree with whatever it is the President is pushing. That's all this is.

These crazy people have always been around. These sorts showing up at political events isn't exactly new. What is new is that they are getting some serious news coverage.
I wholeheartedly disagree. With both statements.

I am baffled as to how they were able to do it. I never heard of anything happening like that when Bush was in office. I never would have been able to fathom that someone would be able to have a gun that close to the President. Obama has some of the most stringent secret service security in the history of this country.

If people are concerned about it or disturbed by it, it has nothing to do with whether they like guns or are in a part of the country that isn't as welcoming to concealed or visible guns being carried. It probably has to do with the fact that they were doing this within a certain distance of a sitting President.
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:48 PM
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I wholeheartedly disagree. With both statements.

I am baffled as to how they were able to do it. I never heard of anything happening like that when Bush was in office. I never would have been able to fathom that someone would be able to have a gun that close to the President. Obama has some of the most stringent secret service security in the history of this country.

If people are concerned about it or disturbed by it, it has nothing to do with whether they like guns or are in a part of the country that isn't as welcoming to concealed or visible guns being carried. It probably has to do with the fact that they were doing this within a certain distance of a sitting President.
I'm not comfortable with it, but if they had permits, it was completely legal. And as your argument with Bush, he was a hard core GOP member who support the right to bear arms. I think people are getting kind of ridiculous though as there is a limit to what Obama can do with gun control without a constitution amendment which frankly I don't think has a snowball's chance.
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:54 PM
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I'm not comfortable with it, but if they had permits, it was completely legal. And as your argument with Bush, he was a hard core GOP member who support the right to bear arms. I think people are getting kind of ridiculous though as there is a limit to what Obama can do with gun control without a constitution amendment which frankly I don't think has a snowball's chance.
It's not about whether it's legal to do it. I don't think anyone is questioning the general legality of carrying firearms. I am puzzled that the secret service allowed them in the vicinity like that. I also think Mystic Cat said it best. That kind of weapon is not something typically seen while walking down the street.
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:33 PM
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I am puzzled that the secret service allowed them in the vicinity like that.
Apparently, it was not close enough to where the president was to fall under the secret service's jurisdiction.
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:40 PM
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Apparently, it was not close enough to where the president was to fall under the secret service's jurisdiction.
That would have to be pretty far away because they have a wide "bubble" of protection.


I must have missed it, but how far away were they?


ETA: I read the article again, but I still did not see where they mentioned the distance.

I'm just going to continue praying for Obama's safety. Based on that article, it doesn't sound like THEY were too concerned about his safety. Ridiculous. Seems very lax to me.
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