Sarah Palin to resign as Alaska governor

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

The people I was referring to aren't Right wingers for whatever that's worth.

Whether they were right or left it doesn't matter.

Just the fact that they actually thought it was true is kinda silly... Just like that study of people who thought Stephen Colbert wasn't using satire on his show

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

Whether they were right or left it doesn't matter.

Just the fact that they actually thought it was true is kinda silly... Just like that study of people who thought Stephen Colbert wasn't using satire on his show

It's silly, but unlike the Colbert think the media coverage of Palin may have been a problem.

Not the only problem, but a contributing problem.

[texas*princess]

I'm just so tired of people blaming others for their own failures.

No, Palin didn't say "I can see Alaska from my house" but that's not the only reason so many people thought she acted ridiculous. The few interviews she gave did NOT go well and every single one of them got her bad publicity. She said a bunch of ridiculous things that didn't even make any coherent sense that really hurt her own credibility.

SNL (or the "Liberal Media Elite") didn't have to do that. She did that on her own.

If she really thinks living near Alaska gives her foreign policy experience, more power to her, but a lot of people would disagree.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

Whether they were right or left it doesn't matter.

Then why did you specifically mention the poll results as they pertain to those on the "right?"

Originally Posted by texas*princess

So because Tina Fey said "I can see Alaska from my house", Sarah Palin's political future is over?

I doubt that.

That's not what anyone is saying. At most, Honeychile was saying that the tone of the campaign may have been different. People (outside of Palin) talk about it as a factor, not "the" dispositive factor.

I agree that Palin's own actions and words have caused the most damage to her political career, but I also think you're mischaracterizing the statements in this thread.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Then why did you specifically mention the poll results as they pertain to those on the "right?"

Because the story I read about that several months ago said "right". Sorry you took offense to that

That's not what anyone is saying. At most, Honeychile was saying that the tone of the campaign may have been different. People (outside of Palin) talk about it as a factor, not "the" dispositive factor.

I agree that Palin's own actions and words have caused the most damage to her political career, but I also think you're mischaracterizing the statements in this thread.

The tone of the campaign wouldn't have been different. Every 4 years SNL mocks the candidates. The same happened last year - all of the candidates were impersonated - not just Palin. So I don't really get the "awww poor Palin! If it wasn't for SNL, she'd be in the White House or things would be different for her!" sentiment.

The difference between the Palin impersonations & the others though, it that Palin said more ridiculous things IRL and gave SNL more material to go off of. If you don't want to be repeatedly mocked, don't make a fool of yourself on the campaign trail of a highly publicized election. It really is that simple.

And for what it's worth, it's not even just her really bad interviews that hurt her politically - there was just too much out there - all those ethics allegations, some of the legislation she got through Alaska, her obvious lack of experience about her that some people just didn't like and/or agree with. Blame the media or whoever you want (since someone other than Palin must be blamed!), but voters should know everything they possibly can about someone before going out there and voting.

And yes, SydneyK, I meant Russia... my bad.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

Because the story I read about that several months ago said "right". Sorry you took offense to that

Well, I guess it never hurts to get in a shot against the other side, right?

Originally Posted by texas*princess

The tone of the campaign wouldn't have been different. Every 4 years SNL mocks the candidates. The same happened last year - all of the candidates were impersonated - not just Palin. So I don't really get the "awww poor Palin! If it wasn't for SNL, she'd be in the White House or things would be different for her!" sentiment....
Blame the media or whoever you want (since someone other than Palin must be blamed!), but voters should know everything they possibly can about someone before going out there and voting.

Again, I think you're overstating things, at least for the purposes of this thread. No one here is saying that Palin would have been VP if the SNL stuff didn't happen, or if the (perceived) media issues weren't there. They are just saying it was a factor.

That's not really all that extreme of a concept - people have been talking about the effect of the media on campaigns for years, back to the Grover Cleveland illegitimate child scandal in the late 19th century, and before that. So, for people to claim that media coverage had an effect on the campaign isn't surprising, or all that unique.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Well, I guess it never hurts to get in a shot against the other side, right?

Then forget the whole part about the Colbert Report. I was just saying that there was a story about right-wing ppl who really thought he was being serious. And that it was silly to think a parody was actually true.

If it bothers you that much I'll edit that part out.
Sheesh.

Again, I think you're overstating things, at least for the purposes of this thread. No one here is saying that Palin would have been VP if the SNL stuff didn't happen, or if the (perceived) media issues weren't there. They are just saying it was a factor.

That's not really all that extreme of a concept - people have been talking about the effect of the media on campaigns for years, back to the Grover Cleveland illegitimate child scandal in the late 19th century, and before that. So, for people to claim that media coverage had an effect on the campaign isn't surprising, or all that unique.

I don't believe SNL was really a factor - which is what HC was implying. If you think the American public actually took that Palin interview parody into consideration when they were standing at the polls, then more power to you.

Even if they did, SNL wasn't that far off base from her real life interviews anyway.

HC said,

Originally Posted by honeychile View Post
If Tina Fey hadn't looked so much like her that people misquoted Sarah by using Tina's words, the whole tone would have been much different.

The "whole tone" wouldn't have been different. If the SNL skits never happened, the media STILL would have covered Palin's missteps in her interviews. Palin still would have looked like a big nerd for not knowing her stuff and not answering questions in a coherent way.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

I don't believe SNL was really a factor - which is what HC was implying. If you think the American public actually took that Palin interview parody into consideration when they were standing at the polls, then more power to you.

A significant number of American pollgoers actually thought Palin said, specifically, "I can see Russia from my house" . . . no matter what you want to think about the education, intelligence or common sense of the American public.

HINT: Alexander Hamilton knew what he was talking about.

Originally Posted by texas*princess

Even if they did, SNL wasn't that far off base from her real life interviews anyway.

This is absolutely, 100% indicative of YOUR bias coming through, not some right-wing, pro-Palin bias.

Show me where she said "I can see Russia from my house" and we'll go ahead and chat from there. I abhor Sarah Palin as a one-dimensional sham and as indicative of what I hate about modern politics, but you're just demonstrably wrong here.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

A significant number of American pollgoers actually thought Palin said, specifically, "I can see Russia from my house" . . . no matter what you want to think about the education, intelligence or common sense of the American public.

HINT: Alexander Hamilton knew what he was talking about.



This is absolutely, 100% indicative of YOUR bias coming through, not some right-wing, pro-Palin bias.

Show me where she said "I can see Russia from my house" and we'll go ahead and chat from there. I abhor Sarah Palin as a one-dimensional sham and as indicative of what I hate about modern politics, but you're just demonstrably wrong here.

I NEVER SAID ANYWHERE THAT PALIN HERSELF SAID SHE CAN SEE RUSSIA FROM HER HOUSE. I'm not really sure why you keep going to that.

Point out to me where I said that please, because I didn't type that anywhere. I don't get why you keep going back to the Russia thing anyway, but if you want to keep talking about it, that's cool.

What I did say was

Not 100% of everything used in the SNL skits were her words, but many of the words & phrases were actually used by her. The SNL writers didn't have to scratch their heads for very long when writing those scenes b/c Palin made it really easy for them.

I even linked to a video in a previous post of mine that shows a part of the actual Palin interview with the Tina Fey version side by side and with the exception of a few "ya knows" and a mention of a dollar value menu, and the part about Russia, Tina Fey used a lot of the very phrases Palin herself used in the Katie Couric interview.

You initially jumped into the "SNL" convo saying that the #1 thing people remember was "I can see Russia from my house". So what? I'm failing to see why that one phrase is so incredibly important. Unless you think that phrase was the demise of Palin's credibility, I don't get it, so please explain that to me.

Palin herself said so many things far more damaging than Tina Fey's Russia spoof comment.