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Old 07-07-2009, 12:20 AM
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I know reasonably intelligent people who think Palin said she could see Russia from her house.
Well if they aren't smart enough to watch the actual interviews, then I question their intelligence.

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Political figures have always been mocked on TV and SNL especially. Why should Palin be any different?

Not 100% of everything used in the SNL skits were her words, but many of the words & phrases were actually used by her. The SNL writers didn't have to scratch their heads for very long when writing those scenes b/c Palin made it really easy for them.

Even if she could see Alaska from her house or some remote island in Alaska, that doesn't quite qualify her for Foreign Diplomat of the Year

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Old 07-07-2009, 12:26 AM
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Well if they aren't smart enough to watch the actual interviews, then I question their intelligence.

There was some survey that said some Right-wingers actually thought Stephen Colbert Report was actually real and not satire. Not smart either.

Political figures have always been mocked on TV and SNL especially. Why should Palin be any different?

Not 100% of everything used in the SNL skits were her words, but many of the words & phrases were actually used by her. The SNL writers didn't have to scratch their heads for very long when writing those scenes b/c Palin made it really easy for them.

Even if she could see Alaska from her house or some remote island in Alaska, that doesn't quite qualify her for Foreign Diplomat of the Year
The people I was referring to aren't Right wingers for whatever that's worth.
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Old 07-07-2009, 12:32 AM
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The people I was referring to aren't Right wingers for whatever that's worth.
Whether they were right or left it doesn't matter.

Just the fact that they actually thought it was true is kinda silly... Just like that study of people who thought Stephen Colbert wasn't using satire on his show
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Old 07-07-2009, 12:39 AM
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Whether they were right or left it doesn't matter.

Just the fact that they actually thought it was true is kinda silly... Just like that study of people who thought Stephen Colbert wasn't using satire on his show
It's silly, but unlike the Colbert think the media coverage of Palin may have been a problem.

Not the only problem, but a contributing problem.
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:45 AM
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I'm just so tired of people blaming others for their own failures.

No, Palin didn't say "I can see Alaska from my house" but that's not the only reason so many people thought she acted ridiculous. The few interviews she gave did NOT go well and every single one of them got her bad publicity. She said a bunch of ridiculous things that didn't even make any coherent sense that really hurt her own credibility.

SNL (or the "Liberal Media Elite") didn't have to do that. She did that on her own.

If she really thinks living near Alaska gives her foreign policy experience, more power to her, but a lot of people would disagree.

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Old 07-07-2009, 09:16 AM
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Whether they were right or left it doesn't matter.
Then why did you specifically mention the poll results as they pertain to those on the "right?"

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So because Tina Fey said "I can see Alaska from my house", Sarah Palin's political future is over?

I doubt that.
That's not what anyone is saying. At most, Honeychile was saying that the tone of the campaign may have been different. People (outside of Palin) talk about it as a factor, not "the" dispositive factor.

I agree that Palin's own actions and words have caused the most damage to her political career, but I also think you're mischaracterizing the statements in this thread.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:29 AM
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Then why did you specifically mention the poll results as they pertain to those on the "right?"
Because the story I read about that several months ago said "right". Sorry you took offense to that


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That's not what anyone is saying. At most, Honeychile was saying that the tone of the campaign may have been different. People (outside of Palin) talk about it as a factor, not "the" dispositive factor.

I agree that Palin's own actions and words have caused the most damage to her political career, but I also think you're mischaracterizing the statements in this thread.
The tone of the campaign wouldn't have been different. Every 4 years SNL mocks the candidates. The same happened last year - all of the candidates were impersonated - not just Palin. So I don't really get the "awww poor Palin! If it wasn't for SNL, she'd be in the White House or things would be different for her!" sentiment.

The difference between the Palin impersonations & the others though, it that Palin said more ridiculous things IRL and gave SNL more material to go off of. If you don't want to be repeatedly mocked, don't make a fool of yourself on the campaign trail of a highly publicized election. It really is that simple.

And for what it's worth, it's not even just her really bad interviews that hurt her politically - there was just too much out there - all those ethics allegations, some of the legislation she got through Alaska, her obvious lack of experience about her that some people just didn't like and/or agree with. Blame the media or whoever you want (since someone other than Palin must be blamed!), but voters should know everything they possibly can about someone before going out there and voting.

And yes, SydneyK, I meant Russia... my bad.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:33 AM
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Because the story I read about that several months ago said "right". Sorry you took offense to that
Well, I guess it never hurts to get in a shot against the other side, right?


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The tone of the campaign wouldn't have been different. Every 4 years SNL mocks the candidates. The same happened last year - all of the candidates were impersonated - not just Palin. So I don't really get the "awww poor Palin! If it wasn't for SNL, she'd be in the White House or things would be different for her!" sentiment....
Blame the media or whoever you want (since someone other than Palin must be blamed!), but voters should know everything they possibly can about someone before going out there and voting.
Again, I think you're overstating things, at least for the purposes of this thread. No one here is saying that Palin would have been VP if the SNL stuff didn't happen, or if the (perceived) media issues weren't there. They are just saying it was a factor.

That's not really all that extreme of a concept - people have been talking about the effect of the media on campaigns for years, back to the Grover Cleveland illegitimate child scandal in the late 19th century, and before that. So, for people to claim that media coverage had an effect on the campaign isn't surprising, or all that unique.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:48 AM
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Well, I guess it never hurts to get in a shot against the other side, right?
Then forget the whole part about the Colbert Report. I was just saying that there was a story about right-wing ppl who really thought he was being serious. And that it was silly to think a parody was actually true.

If it bothers you that much I'll edit that part out.
Sheesh.

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Again, I think you're overstating things, at least for the purposes of this thread. No one here is saying that Palin would have been VP if the SNL stuff didn't happen, or if the (perceived) media issues weren't there. They are just saying it was a factor.

That's not really all that extreme of a concept - people have been talking about the effect of the media on campaigns for years, back to the Grover Cleveland illegitimate child scandal in the late 19th century, and before that. So, for people to claim that media coverage had an effect on the campaign isn't surprising, or all that unique.
I don't believe SNL was really a factor - which is what HC was implying. If you think the American public actually took that Palin interview parody into consideration when they were standing at the polls, then more power to you.

Even if they did, SNL wasn't that far off base from her real life interviews anyway.

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If Tina Fey hadn't looked so much like her that people misquoted Sarah by using Tina's words, the whole tone would have been much different.
The "whole tone" wouldn't have been different. If the SNL skits never happened, the media STILL would have covered Palin's missteps in her interviews. Palin still would have looked like a big nerd for not knowing her stuff and not answering questions in a coherent way.

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