Race & Sororities

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

The problem is that you are trying to have an all-or-nothing stance. You can't do that. As DrPhil pointed out, I never said ALL. You can never say ALL about anything. My take on it is simply that racism exists in the white sororities and that it DOES affect membership.

With respect to the issue of qualified women not applying, MY point is that in some instances it is because of these types of incidents. YOU are just throwing it out there to explain why there aren't more black women in these groups. What qualified black woman in her right mind would want to join an org that throws or participates in black face parties?

Well, she'd have trouble joining a fraternity because of sexism.

One issue is you are painting with too broad a brush - AND you are assuming that you know what determines membership selection in a NPC chapter. YOU DON'T. You can't. You may assume all you want, but the problem is you keep saying you KNOW.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Well, she'd have trouble joining a fraternity because of sexism.

One issue is you are painting with too broad a brush - AND you are assuming that you know what determines membership selection in a NPC chapter. YOU DON'T. You can't. You may assume all you want, but the problem is you keep saying you KNOW.

I'm not saying I know how membership selection goes. I'm saying that it is BS to sit there and act as though race doesn't sometimes play a role. And yes, I also said that some of these groups will try to hide behind the membership selection process argument.

[Zillini]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I'm not saying I know how membership selection goes. I'm saying that it is BS to sit there and act as though race doesn't sometimes play a role. And yes, I also said that some of these groups will try to hide behind the membership selection process argument.

Herein lies the problem. Membership selection IS confidential. Therefore an NPC chapter cannot correct assumptions/accusations of why any PNM is released because they are not allowed to talk about it. Not to our alums, non-members, and certainly not to the press.

How often have we all heard stories right here on GC about Penny Perfect PNM who got released? Everyone responds maybe she didn't click with the actives, maybe there were 100's of others who were just as perfect, yadda, yadda, yadda. Add race to the mix and suddenly the assumption is it was racism.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by Zillini

Herein lies the problem. Membership selection IS confidential. Therefore an NPC chapter cannot correct assumptions/accusations of why any PNM is released because they are not allowed to talk about it. Not to our alums, non-members, and certainly not to the press.

How often have we all heard stories right here on GC about Penny Perfect PNM who got released? Everyone responds maybe she didn't click with the actives, maybe there were 100's of others who were just as perfect, yadda, yadda, yadda. Add race to the mix and suddenly the assumption is it was racism.

It doesn't matter whether membership selection is confidential.