Rush Limbaugh hopes Obama Fails

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by madmax

Your problem is you are a racist. You probably went to a Jerimiah Wright type church were you were brainwashed to hate whitey.


holla

This is when I stopped reading....clown.

READ muthafuckah READ...did I say it was the BEST division...NO..I said TOUGHEST...TOUGHEST DOES NOT EQUAL BEST AS THE AMOUNT OF AFC TEAMS WINNING THE SUPER BOWL THE LAST 10 OR SO YEARS WILL ATTEST TO.

AND no...both Vick and OJ got caught up in their own stupidness and deserve where they are supposed to be AS WELL AS Pacman Jones so you can kill that racist bullshit right there.


For your number 3 you could have had a cognizant argument right there and STOPPED and looked SMART before you started in with your narrow minded ig'nant ass view.

NOW....I will call you stupid.

Holla back when your yellow spine grows a brain.

Originally Posted by PhiGam

McNabb is good but Manning is one of the all time greats. As a die hard Dan Marino fan I will say that Peyton is the ONLY player that I will put on the same level as Marino in terms of passing ability.
The Eagles offense is only good when Brian Westbrook plays, he may be the best RB in the league right now.

I will agree with you on the first part but may disagree with you on the last part.

Would you put Westbrook over LT? (not gonna include AP in because he hasn't played long enough) If so, why?

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I will agree with you on the first part but may disagree with you on the last part.

Would you put Westbrook over LT? (not gonna include AP in because he hasn't played long enough) If so, why?

I feel that Westbrook is pretty much the entire Eagles' offense. He is explosive in the open field and their second best receiver (Jackson is amazing).
Tomlinson may be better but its hard to tell because that offense has a great receiving core (Jackson, Chambers, Gates, etc.) Not to mention that the guy backing up Tomlinson is Darren Sproles. This was a down year for him but LaDanian can't have another season where he averages 3.8 per carry if he wants to be considered the best IMO.
Side note: The fact that Favre made it to the pro bowl over Pennington proves that its a popularity contest.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I feel that Westbrook is pretty much the entire Eagles' offense. He is explosive in the open field and their second best receiver (Jackson is amazing).
Tomlinson may be better but its hard to tell because that offense has a great receiving core (Jackson, Chambers, Gates, etc.) Not to mention that the guy backing up Tomlinson is Darren Sproles. This was a down year for him but LaDanian can't have another season where he averages 3.8 per carry if he wants to be considered the best IMO.
Side note: The fact that Favre made it to the pro bowl over Pennington proves that its a popularity contest.

Good observation and part of that I think is due to the lack of serious talent at WR.

Your RB should not be somewhere near your top WR if you have capable WRs on the field.

This goes right back into what I was saying:

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/spor...er_talent.html

Good point on LT BTW also. And the last 2 seasons (since Norv Turner took over) have been down seasons for LT.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Good observation and part of that I think is due to the lack of serious talent at WR.

Your RB should not be somewhere near your top WR if you have capable WRs on the field.

This goes right back into what I was saying:

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/spor...er_talent.html

Good point on LT BTW also. And the last 2 seasons (since Norv Turner took over) have been down seasons for LT.

Norv Turner sucks- I blame the collapse of the Dolphins on his poor decision-making as our offensive coordinator.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Norv Turner sucks- I blame the collapse of the Dolphins on his poor decision-making as our offensive coordinator.

we can agree on that..I still dont understand how he keeps a job in the NFL.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

we can agree on that..I still dont understand how he keeps a job in the NFL.

People think he's a good coordinator for some reason... I've never seen it. His play calling in Miami was:
1st down: HB Dive
2nd down: HB Off tackle
3rd down: Incomplete pass

[DaemonSeid]

well Imma try to bring this full circle...numbers and stat crunching not withstanding

I THINK Limbaugh is wrong about McNabb...like him or hate him, McNabb lasting 10 years as a starting, STARTING..STAAARRRTTTING...QB is a success BY ANY STANDARD considering that most players, period, that was drafted that year aren't even starting or in most cases, playing.

Rush was and is wrong and his statements about Black QBs and Black presidents shows that he needs to for once be right...this is coming from a man who has had issues with painkillers and Viagra so how people defend him is anyone's guess.

If Obama rights many of the wrongs of the Bush administration and leaves out of office with America in a higher standard than it is now, if he excutes and is successful setting all of us on a course where there is a more peaceful world, if this admin finds an amicable resolution to the war we didn't need to be in, then Limbaugh and those who think like him in hatefulness will have their credibility reduced further.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I feel that Westbrook is pretty much the entire Eagles' offense. He is explosive in the open field and their second best receiver (Jackson is amazing).
Tomlinson may be better but its hard to tell because that offense has a great receiving core (Jackson, Chambers, Gates, etc.) Not to mention that the guy backing up Tomlinson is Darren Sproles. This was a down year for him but LaDanian can't have another season where he averages 3.8 per carry if he wants to be considered the best IMO.
Side note: The fact that Favre made it to the pro bowl over Pennington proves that its a popularity contest.

Westbrook isn't the entire offense. You even said Jackson is amazing. Some people even think he might be done. By the end of the season he only had about 120 yards in the last 3 playoff games combined. He made one play in the playoffs and that was a 2 yard screen pass in the Minnesotta game in which he went 70 yrds untouched with great downfield blocking. Corell Buckholter was a better rb by the end of the year. Most of the local press was calling for Buckholter to get the ball more. The Eagles offense would be fine if Andy Kotite would run the ball. The Eagles O line is built to run but Andy KOtite has games in which he passes 25 STRAIGHT times(Chargers a couple yrs ago) or 15 straight times this year vs the Redskins. Then when the team is trailing with no timeouts and the team is running the 2 minute drill Andy KOtite strarts running the ball. F'ing brilliant. With 10 seconds left in the game and no timeouts the ball on the 20 Troy Aikman specifically points out that Kordell McNabb has to go for the endzone or the clock won't stop and the Eagles will lose. What does Kordell do? He throws a 19 yard pass and the clock runs out and the Eagles lose.



Your point about Farve is 100% on the money. Farve was selected to the Pro Bowl and most Jets fans want to get rid of him. It is a popularity contest.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by madmax

Westbrook isn't the entire offense. You even said Jackson is amazing. Some people even think he might be done. By the end of the season he only had about 120 yards in the last 3 playoff games combined. He made one play in the playoffs and that was a 2 yard screen pass in the Minnesotta game in which he went 70 yrds untouched with great downfield blocking. Corell Buckholter was a better rb by the end of the year. Most of the local press was calling for Buckholter to get the ball more. The Eagles offense would be fine if Andy Kotite would run the ball. The Eagles O line is built to run but Andy KOtite has games in which he passes 25 STRAIGHT times(Chargers a couple yrs ago) or 15 straight times this year vs the Redskins. Then when the team is trailing with no timeouts and the team is running the 2 minute drill Andy KOtite strarts running the ball. F'ing brilliant. With 10 seconds left in the game and no timeouts the ball on the 20 Troy Aikman specifically points out that Kordell McNabb has to go for the endzone or the clock won't stop and the Eagles will lose. What does Kordell do? He throws a 19 yard pass and the clock runs out and the Eagles lose.



Your point about Farve is 100% on the money. Farve was selected to the Pro Bowl and most Jets fans want to get rid of him. It is a popularity contest.

Now...see how smart you sound while avoiding all the ig'nant shit?

Stay on that track and perhaps we can have some kind of civil gentlemanly discourse

[madmax]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Now...see how smart you sound while avoiding all the ig'nant shit?

Stay on that track and perhaps we can have some kind of civil gentlemanly discourse

Dont get uppity. You brought Randall Cuningham and Tim Couch. It was obvious YOU were trying to play the race card. Then when I slapped you around the block with the facts about McNabb.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by madmax

Dont get uppity. You brought Randall Cuningham and Tim Couch. It was obvious YOU were trying to play the race card. Then when I slapped you around the block with the facts about McNabb you backtracked.

dummy....dumb dumb dumb dummy...

Go back and see who was drafted ONE and TWO (AND THREE) in the 1999 draft.

Then SLAP YOURSELF upside the head.

"It was obvious YOU were trying to play the race card."

damn...please tell me you didn't just say that....SMH

as a matter of fact....here is a tickler for you while you rescind your race card...how many QBs from that draft are STILL ACTIVE and STARTING as of this past season?

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by madmax

Westbrook isn't the entire offense. You even said Jackson is amazing. Some people even think he might be done. By the end of the season he only had about 120 yards in the last 3 playoff games combined. He made one play in the playoffs and that was a 2 yard screen pass in the Minnesotta game in which he went 70 yrds untouched with great downfield blocking. Corell Buckholter was a better rb by the end of the year. Most of the local press was calling for Buckholter to get the ball more. The Eagles offense would be fine if Andy Kotite would run the ball. The Eagles O line is built to run but Andy KOtite has games in which he passes 25 STRAIGHT times(Chargers a couple yrs ago) or 15 straight times this year vs the Redskins. Then when the team is trailing with no timeouts and the team is running the 2 minute drill Andy KOtite strarts running the ball. F'ing brilliant. With 10 seconds left in the game and no timeouts the ball on the 20 Troy Aikman specifically points out that Kordell McNabb has to go for the endzone or the clock won't stop and the Eagles will lose. What does Kordell do? He throws a 19 yard pass and the clock runs out and the Eagles lose.



Your point about Farve is 100% on the money. Farve was selected to the Pro Bowl and most Jets fans want to get rid of him. It is a popularity contest.

How did you guys do in the games where Westbrook didn't play? I want to say that yall we 0-4 when he didn't play. Without him all of the Eagles check down/ screen options are eliminated and as we all know McNabb is terrible against the Blitz. Buckhalter may be as good of a runner as Westbrook but in a west coast style offense it is far more important to have a running back who is a threat on screen plays.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

How did you guys do in the games where Westbrook didn't play? I want to say that yall we 0-4 when he didn't play. Without him all of the Eagles check down/ screen options are eliminated and as we all know McNabb is terrible against the Blitz. Buckhalter may be as good of a runner as Westbrook but in a west coast style offense it is far more important to have a running back who is a threat on screen plays.

Westbrook only missed 2 games. The Eagles were 1-1 and should have been 2-0 but Andy Kotite gave away the Bears game. The team went 8-5-1 with Westbrook.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by madmax

Westbrook only missed 2 games. The Eagles were 1-1 and should have been 2-0 but Andy Kotite gave away the Bears game. The team went 8-5-1 with Westbrook.

Besides this, every stat shows that in 08 Buckhalter was markedly better in the passing game - FO's stats have him top 10 in the league and Westbrook much further down in the middle of the pack.

Westbrook is the most important player in the offense, but his contribution is somewhat overblown - probably the most important offensive contribution comes from the defense/special teams, in turnovers and field position.