Rush Limbaugh hopes Obama Fails

[DaemonSeid]

heh...for those that got offended at what Jay Z said....take a gander at this:


RUSH: I got a request here from a major American print publication. "Dear Rush: For the Obama [Immaculate] Inauguration we are asking a handful of very prominent politicians, statesmen, scholars, businessmen, commentators, and economists to write 400 words on their hope for the Obama presidency. We would love to include you. If you could send us 400 words on your hope for the Obama presidency, we need it by Monday night, that would be ideal." Now, we're caught in this trap again. The premise is, what is your "hope." My hope, and please understand me when I say this. I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle who have caved and who say, "Well, I hope he succeeds. We've got to give him a chance." Why? They didn't give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I'm not talking about search-and-destroy, but I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed.

If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails." (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, "Oh, you can't do that." Why not? Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don't care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: "Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails." Somebody's gotta say it.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...113.guest.html


Video:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...r.limbaugh.cnn

I guess it would be wrong if somebody says that they hope Rush ODs.....hehe

"Somebody's gotta say it."

[deepimpact2]

Normally this would annoy me, but honestly I find it amusing. It's really so pathetic. lol

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

heh...for those that got offended at what Jay Z said....take a gander at this:


RUSH: I got a request here from a major American print publication. "Dear Rush: For the Obama [Immaculate] Inauguration we are asking a handful of very prominent politicians, statesmen, scholars, businessmen, commentators, and economists to write 400 words on their hope for the Obama presidency. We would love to include you. If you could send us 400 words on your hope for the Obama presidency, we need it by Monday night, that would be ideal." Now, we're caught in this trap again. The premise is, what is your "hope." My hope, and please understand me when I say this. I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle who have caved and who say, "Well, I hope he succeeds. We've got to give him a chance." Why? They didn't give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I'm not talking about search-and-destroy, but I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed.

If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails." (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, "Oh, you can't do that." Why not? Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don't care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: "Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails." Somebody's gotta say it.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...113.guest.html


Video:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...r.limbaugh.cnn

I guess it would be wrong if somebody says that they hope Rush ODs.....hehe

"Somebody's gotta say it."

I don't see how "I don't like Obama's policies and I hope he isn't successful in implementing them" is even close to "I hope a man dies from overdosing."

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I don't see how "I don't like Obama's policies and I hope he isn't successful in implementing them" is even close to "I hope a man dies from overdosing."

"Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."

The fact that Rush stated aloud his own prejudices and hateful ideologies over the health and welfare of the country is disgusting all by itself.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

"Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."

The fact that Rush stated aloud his own prejudices and hateful ideologies over the health and welfare of the country is disgusting all by itself.

To me, when someone says that they hope a President fails, I read that as meaning that they hope his policies fail.

You're also stating that Obama's policies are good for "the health and welfare of the country," and honestly, that's just your opinion at this point (as well as the opinion of those who voted for Obama). There's nothing to say that his policies will be successful, and we won't know that for quite a while.

There are people who have legitimate problems with his platform, and there are a lot of people who think that his policies won't help the country and who hope he fails in implementing them. That's just the nature of being a President - some people want your policies to fail, because they don't agree with said policies.

I'm by no means a Rush fan, but I see no problem with what he said.

I understand Rush says some ridiculous stuff, and that he can be a real lightning rod...but you're stretching it a bit here.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

"Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."

In implementing the policies that Limbaugh doesn't agree with.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

The fact that Rush stated aloud his own prejudices and hateful ideologies over the health and welfare of the country is disgusting all by itself.

Limbaugh is like Ann Coulter, whatever good points he's making is being coated in shock rock. Get distracted by that at your own risk.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

To me, when someone says that they hope a President fails, I read that as meaning that they hope his policies fail.

You're also stating that Obama's policies are good for "the health and welfare of the country," and honestly, that's just your opinion at this point (as well as the opinion of those who voted for Obama). There's nothing to say that his policies will be successful, and we won't know that for quite a while.

Not everyone likes Obama's policies, and there are a lot of people who think that his policies won't help the country and who hope he fails in implementing them. That's just the nature of being a President - some people want your policies to fail.

I'm by no means a Rush fan, but I see no problem with what he said.

I understand Rush says some ridiculous stuff, and that he can be a real lightning rod...but you're stretching it a bit here.

Precisely.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

To me, when someone says that they hope a President fails, I read that as meaning that they hope his policies fail.

I'm by no means a Rush fan, but I see no problem with what he said.

Not everyone likes Obama's policies, and there are a lot of people who think that his policies won't help the country and who hope he fails in implementing them. That's just the nature of being a President - some people want your policies to fail.

I understand Rush says some ridiculous stuff...but you're stretching it a bit here.

Sorry but with Rush and taking a look back at his track record, I disagree with you when anyone thinks that ALL he meant was policy.

Wordplay at work.

[jwright25]

OK. I've been thinking about this. And DS, I know there's no way in hell you will ever agree with Rush Limbaugh about anything, even if he said the sky is blue. As someone who did not vote for President Obama, I can read between Rush's lines and know where he is coming from. Rush did not vote for Obama (no secret) because he does not believe that Obama's ideas for solving the country's problems are the best way to go about it. Neither do I for that matter.

So Rush does not want him to succeed in creating socialized healthcare or spreading the wealth or any other number of things. Because Rush (and 57 million other Americans) don't want this stuff to happen. I don't want a lot of it to happen. So as far as hoping that Obama succeeds on putting his campaign platform into law, I would agree with Rush.

I think that Rush was speaking on a micro level - about Obama's specific policy ideas. On a macro level - I (and many others) desperately want him to succeed. For the most part, we all want the same outcomes, it's just that we differ on the methods to achieve them. I happen to believe in a free market system (NOT a fan of any bailout). I do not believe that the Constitution guarantees Americans the right to see a doctor without paying for it. I believe strongly in helping others - through private channels and the creation of jobs, not through tax dollars and bailouts/handouts. I gave 3 times the amount Vice President Biden did to charity, yet I make 20% of what he makes. I am a hardcore Libertarian that believes the federal government should exist only for defense and maybe a little infrastructure. Let the states handle other issues.

I DO NOT have all the answers. If I did, I would run for President. But as a business owner, I know that I want as little unsolicited input as possible from the federal government about how to run my business. And how to run my life. And what I should be required to do with my money and my time. If I go bankrupt, that's MY problem. Not the government's and sure as hell not your problem or your responsibility to help me out. I don't want help. This woman scares the shit out of me. How have we gotten to a point where Americans believe that the President of the United States is going to fix it so they don't have to worry about paying their bills? I would like to believe that she is thinking macro, and that it is her belief that Obama's policies will create so much wealth that she will get a great job and have money to burn. But I don't doubt that there are folks out there who voted for him just because they want more social programs and money for nothing. "How DARE anyone in this country take home more than $250,000 in salary. Take it from those greedy bastards and give it to me. I'm poor."

I have great respect for President Obama. He is my President, and when he proposes something that is in line with my personal values and thoughts, I will hope that he succeeds and will share that with my Congressman and Senators. However, if he proposes something that I do not agree with, I cannot help but hope that he (read: IT) fails. I am even more liberal than he on some issues (gay marriage, decriminalization of marijuana, and other matters of liberty that I believe to be PRIVATE issues and none of the government's business).

And I have to agree with our new Secretary of State: “I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, “WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEBATE AND DISAGREE WITH ANY ADMINISTRATION!”

And that includes Rush Limbaugh.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by jwright25

OK. I've been thinking about this. And DS, I know there's no way in hell you will ever agree with Rush Limbaugh about anything, even if he said the sky is blue. As someone who did not vote for President Obama, I can read between Rush's lines and know where he is coming from. Rush did not vote for Obama (no secret) because he does not believe that Obama's ideas for solving the country's problems are the best way to go about it. Neither do I for that matter.

So Rush does not want him to succeed in creating socialized healthcare or spreading the wealth or any other number of things. Because Rush (and 57 million other Americans) don't want this stuff to happen. I don't want a lot of it to happen. So as far as hoping that Obama succeeds on putting his campaign platform into law, I would agree with Rush.

I think that Rush was speaking on a micro level - about Obama's specific policy ideas. On a macro level - I (and many others) desperately want him to succeed. For the most part, we all want the same outcomes, it's just that we differ on the methods to achieve them. I happen to believe in a free market system (NOT a fan of any bailout). I do not believe that the Constitution guarantees Americans the right to see a doctor without paying for it. I believe strongly in helping others - through private channels and the creation of jobs, not through tax dollars and bailouts/handouts. I gave 3 times the amount Vice President Biden did to charity, yet I make 20% of what he makes. I am a hardcore Libertarian that believes the federal government should exist only for defense and maybe a little infrastructure. Let the states handle other issues.

I DO NOT have all the answers. If I did, I would run for President. But as a business owner, I know that I want as little unsolicited input as possible from the federal government about how to run my business. And how to run my life. And what I should be required to do with my money and my time. If I go bankrupt, that's MY problem. Not the government's and sure as hell not your problem or your responsibility to help me out. I don't want help. This woman scares the shit out of me. How have we gotten to a point where Americans believe that the President of the United States is going to fix it so they don't have to worry about paying their bills? I would like to believe that she is thinking macro, and that it is her belief that Obama's policies will create so much wealth that she will get a great job and have money to burn. But I don't doubt that there are folks out there who voted for him just because they want more social programs and money for nothing. "How DARE anyone in this country take home more than $250,000 in salary. Take it from those greedy bastards and give it to me. I'm poor."

I have great respect for President Obama. He is my President, and when he proposes something that is in line with my personal values and thoughts, I will hope that he succeeds and will share that with my Congressman and Senators. However, if he proposes something that I do not agree with, I cannot help but hope that he (read: IT) fails. I am even more liberal than he on some issues (gay marriage, decriminalization of marijuana, and other matters of liberty that I believe to be PRIVATE issues and none of the government's business).

And I have to agree with our new Secretary of State: “I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, “WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEBATE AND DISAGREE WITH ANY ADMINISTRATION!”

And that includes Rush Limbaugh.

Donovan McNabb
Halle Berry
Halfrican American
Barack the Magic Negro
Curious George

To start, those are just a few of the reason why I do not give Rush a pass with that portion of his comment.

ETA: Had it been someone else of more credibility and integrity, then the whole statement would require more 'generous' scrutiny.

[AGDee]

I think how you interpret his comment depends on how you define a successful Presidency.

Is a successful Presidency one in which we achieve peace but remain a super power? Have a growth economy and low unemployment rate with a decreasing national debt? Have a productive, healthy and (basically) happy population? And, if all of this is achieved, isn't it good for everybody, even if a liberal is the one who achieved it?

On the other hand, if you define a successful Presidency as one in which the President is able to implement all of his policies, whether the policies themselves make things better or not, then I can understand Rush's statement.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I think how you interpret his comment depends on how you define a successful Presidency.

Is a successful Presidency one in which we achieve peace but remain a super power? Have a growth economy and low unemployment rate with a decreasing national debt? Have a productive, healthy and (basically) happy population? And, if all of this is achieved, isn't it good for everybody, even if a liberal is the one who achieved it?

On the other hand, if you define a successful Presidency as one in which the President is able to implement all of his policies, whether the policies themselves make things better or not, then I can understand Rush's statement.

But, again, this statement seems to presuppose that Obama's policies will lead to the things you mention, and there's no way to know if that's true. It could very well be that his policies will lead to higher unemployment, burdensome taxes, a lack of safety at home and abroad, and an unhappy population.

No one knows whether he'll be successful or not, but those who hope his Presidency will "fail" probably think that his policies will not lead to prosperity or happiness, that instead they will lead the country into tougher times.

ETA: In the end, it's way too early to even be making these judgments about whether he'll be a success or a failure.

[RU OX Alum]

Rush Limbaugh is racist, and always has been. So is the majority of his audience. That shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

[jwright25]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Donovan McNabb
Halle Berry
Halfrican American
Barack the Magic Negro
Curious George

To start, those are just a few of the reason why I do not give Rush a pass with that portion of his comment.

Donovan McNabb - I don't know enough about his football skills to agree or disagree with Rush's assertion that he got more hype because of his skin color. Are you saying that it is impossible for Rush's statement to be true? (I don't know - I'm asking seriously, not rhetorically.)

Halle Berry / Halfrican American - I didn't know what you were referring to here and had to Google it. I am not black, and so I do not presume to pass judgment on the offensiveness of this situation. I have learned a lot from reading the other race wars on GC that what I might think is okay - really is not. So if this offends you as an African American, so be it. I won't tell you you are wrong.

Barack the Magic Negro - That term originated from an African American columnist, not Rush.

Curious George - That came from a caller to his show, not Rush.

Again, I don't think any amount of discussion or persuasion will ever convince you that Rush is right about anything. And that's OK. I do read your posts and your opinions on GC because I realize that unless I am truly informed about the ideas and opinions of those with whom I disagree, I cannot say that my own opinions have been generated without examining all sides of an issue.

I did enjoy your photos from the inauguration.

[jwright25]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

Rush Limbaugh is racist, and always has been. So is the majority of his audience. That shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

As someone who listens to Rush, this is a surprise to learn that I'm a racist. May I ask how you know that about me?