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Old 11-07-2008, 02:01 AM
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I think that racism is inherently a neuropsychological pathology--much like multi-symptomatic mixed-episode schizo-affective disorder with a substance addiction... Or like dysthymia...
Could you please explain that one a little further?
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:17 AM
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Could you please explain that one a little further?
Yikes......

Racism isn't a "sickness" or a "pathology." LOL. That's what people said a decade and more ago when they were still trying to understand racism as "bad people who say and do bad things that frighten and hurt people." That's why fools were focusing on tolerance and sensitivity training to "cure racism." If folks only learned about other people, they'd be nicer and racism would fall apart, right? No, so fools were baffled when people had their tolerance certification and were self-proclaimed "good people who don't hate anyone because we're all God's creatures" but there was STILL racism. How could that be? LOL...that's because racism is a structure that has permeated institutions and is reinforced through individual actions and structural processes.

That's why I don't call PEOPLE racist because a lot of people think that's about a pathology of "bad people." Instead, you can be the most loving person in the world and reinforce the racist structure and you can be the most hateful person in the world and reinforce the racist structure. It's about sense of group threat and racial identity processes. THAT is what American history, including this election and social issues such as welfare and immigration, has taught us. Self-proclaimed "good people" and "Godly people" suddenly turned crazily intolerant to defend what they considered to be their turf and their resources.
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Old 11-08-2008, 01:59 AM
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Yikes......

Racism isn't a "sickness" or a "pathology." LOL. That's what people said a decade and more ago when they were still trying to understand racism as "bad people who say and do bad things that frighten and hurt people." That's why fools were focusing on tolerance and sensitivity training to "cure racism." If folks only learned about other people, they'd be nicer and racism would fall apart, right? No, so fools were baffled when people had their tolerance certification and were self-proclaimed "good people who don't hate anyone because we're all God's creatures" but there was STILL racism. How could that be? LOL...that's because racism is a structure that has permeated institutions and is reinforced through individual actions and structural processes.

That's why I don't call PEOPLE racist because a lot of people think that's about a pathology of "bad people." Instead, you can be the most loving person in the world and reinforce the racist structure and you can be the most hateful person in the world and reinforce the racist structure. It's about sense of group threat and racial identity processes. THAT is what American history, including this election and social issues such as welfare and immigration, has taught us. Self-proclaimed "good people" and "Godly people" suddenly turned crazily intolerant to defend what they considered to be their turf and their resources.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:37 AM
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He asked us to do what many of us would've done had he not said it.

Don't give this man credit for stuff he doesn't deserve credit for. He's a great orator but I really hope there aren't people who were going to act a fool and decide not to because "Obama asked us...."
Wow. Another judgment!!! How is that helping? Yes he can be credited for as arduous his campaign was, in my opinion. Be free to disagree with that. It still does not negate the fact the people who choose to make disparaging comments are suffering from an insecure psychosis.

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Could you please explain that one a little further?
Racism is an organized attempt to justify a superiority over one who physically appears different.

Humans use discernment is looks while developing learning. They inherently discriminate on inane things such as preferring candy vs. broccoli... When it becomes discrimination against others simple because of the way the people look, and a systematic oppression of their thriving in a society that purports freedom, liberty and all men are created equal, then that is what sociologists are calling racism. There are further definitions.

I professionally think racism is a neuropsychological pathology. As children, they use discrimination to learn, but when the parent/environment foster traumatic events, anxieties, where logic and reason is suppressed to act on anger inappropriately, then a psychosis develops. And as this psychosis is nurtured, the very neurons and brain chemicals inappropriately flux into a pathological condition that is manifested as negative behavior. As it further develops, the person's psyche deteriorates and leads to a destructive behavior that requires substances to self-soothe, which does not really work for this condition. Eventually, as the person ages, a chronic illness develops and they die. Rarely are these deaths peaceful...

Curing is not the goal here. Treating the underlying condition, a psychosis likened to a schizo-affective disorder, would be in order here. However, the biological and medical treatments are not there yet, and are unfunded at this time.
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Old 11-07-2008, 02:54 AM
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How is that helping?
Eh...just don't like seeing people put on pedastols that they have yet to earn.

ETA: As for your judgment of people making those statements, the only "insecure psychosis" that many of them are probably dealing with is attention whoredom and fear of the unknown. That's the recipe for an "ism."

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When it becomes discrimination against others simple because of the way the people look, and a systematic oppression of their thriving in a society that purports freedom, liberty and all men are created equal, then that is what sociologists are calling racism.
The way people look and anything that identifies a group as "the other." Names, voices, religious denominations, social networks, etc.

The other part of our conceptualization of racism is that people aren't discriminating against others because they have nothing better to do with their time or for genetic and biological reasons. It is about a sense of threat or fear. Those who have genetic or biological issues could just as easily chosen something other than racist behavior to manifest. So while these genetic and biological issues may be correlated with individual racist behavior for some people, it isn't a cause or a strong correlate that is necessary and sufficient for the racist structure. However, I would love to read the genetic and biological research on racism. Interdisciplinary research is what's up.

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