Shocked & Disgusted

[starang21]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Your 'different dynamics' are just justifications as why it's okay to vote for a person based on their skin pigmentation.

How is despising Obama or being afraid of him because he's black not the moral equivalent of supporting him simply because he's black? What you offered were reasons -- justifications as to why you think that's fine. That's all well and good, given your obvious problems with this "KKKountry's"h history, but you're just trying to justify a behavior you would condemn if it was a white man supporting a white candidate because they were white.

people are entitled to vote for whoever they want why they want. white people have been doing it for years against candidates of color. and guess what, that's ok. those are personal biases, and people are allowed to have those. big difference between personal bias and unjust law.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by starang21

people are entitled to vote for whoever they want why they want. white people have been doing it for years against candidates of color. and guess what, that's ok. those are personal biases, and people are allowed to have those. big difference between personal bias and unjust law.

I think you're mistaking what Kevin's arguing as "OK" versus "acceptable" or "understandable" or "beneficial for the individual/group, outweighing any real or perceived moral or ethical issues" - not that it particularly matters.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

I think you're mistaking what Kevin's arguing as "OK" versus "acceptable" or "understandable" or "beneficial for the individual/group, outweighing any real or perceived moral or ethical issues" - not that it particularly matters.

they're both acceptable AND understandable. everyone is prejudiced, and everyone has personal biases. it's human nature. the only person who needs to understand or accept is the person who is doing the voting. from what i'm reading, he's chastising those who voted for obama based on the color of his skin. while i think that it's a limited reason to vote for a candidate, there's really nothing wrong with it.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by starang21

they're both acceptable AND understandable. everyone is prejudiced, and everyone has personal biases. it's human nature. the only person who needs to understand or accept is the person who is doing the voting. from what i'm reading, he's chastising those who voted for obama based on the color of his skin. while i think that it's a limited reason to vote for a candidate, there's really nothing wrong with it.

Maybe I wasn't clear - I see exactly where you're coming from. It's not at all where Kevin is - you're arguing something he's not saying.

I agree with you, by the way, from a pragmatic standpoint - that doesn't mean there aren't "issues" with voting based on race, it's just that you and I understand that other issues win out.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

you're arguing something he's not saying.

this is what he said......

Originally Posted by Kevin

It's just as offensive to be against the man because of his race as it is to support him because of his race.

Originally Posted by Kevin

Your 'different dynamics' are just justifications as why it's okay to vote for a person based on their skin pigmentation. How is despising Obama or being afraid of him because he's black not the moral equivalent of supporting him simply because he's black?

Originally Posted by Kevin

you're just trying to justify a behavior you would condemn if it was a white man supporting a white candidate because they were white.

this is what i said......

Originally Posted by starang21

people are entitled to vote for whoever they want why they want.

i'm basically telling him that both are ok. if someone wants to not vote for obama because he's black, there's nothing wrong with that. if someone wants to vote for obama because he's black, there's nothing wrong with that, either.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by starang21

this is what he said......








this is what i said......



i'm basically telling him that both are ok. if someone wants to not vote for obama because he's black, there's nothing wrong with that. if someone wants to vote for obama because he's black, there's nothing wrong with that, either.

It's actually....surreal....watching other people debate over how and why Black people vote...heh

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

It's actually....surreal....watching other people debate over how and why Black people vote...heh

the only person who needs to understand why an individual votes a particular way is that individual.