Second Presidential Debate

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

It's a pick yourself up by your bootstraps attitude. I guarantee you that most people buy things that they could do without if they had to pick between that and health care. I agree, health care is important, important enough that you do what it takes to get insurance. Now I understand that there are going to be some emergency situations where people can't make ends meet on health insurance for a short time. If you have a medical crisis during that time then most private hospitals have a charity fund that is used to treat such emergency situations and there are lots of other charities that do the same. And for non-emergency medical care in those times of crisis, I know in my area there are a number of low-income and free clinics that are run by some of the big doctors offices in the area and staffed by either volunteers from amongst their employees or employees who are paid to do a certain number of hours a month at the clinic. You rely on the goodness of people, not the goodness of the government. That's the role for charity to play in my opinion.

And I do support the government facilitating the creation of risk pools so that small businesses can group together to improve their bargaining position with insurance companies and make it a better assumption of risk for the company by having a larger coverage pool to pay in. That alone would allow a lot of additional businesses to provide health care. I think more businesses should be providing health insurance because it's in their best interest to have a healthy workforce and where it's possible to help them provide insurance without undermining the market system we should do so.

If ever there was a system where by McCain's standards we would get $5000 to buy insurance you can guarantee 2 things

1. Not everyone will be eligible to get 5000 or even part of that money

2. It would be taxed....I don't think anyone want that money taxed on their healthcare...can you see trying to pay for meds you can barely afford and have to pay taxes on it too?

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

2. It would be taxed....I don't think anyone want that money taxed on their healthcare...can you see trying to pay for meds you can barely afford and have to pay taxes on it too?

Darn skippy. I get a tax benefit right now thru a flex spending account. You can bet that'd be gone under McCain's plan.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Darn skippy. I get a tax benefit right now thru a flex spending account. You can bet that'd be gone under McCain's plan.

exactamundo...and anyone out there with an HSA account, especially if you have a lot of health issues....that money disappears too quickly.

[DaemonSeid]

My last point before I go to bed...McCain said out of his own mouth that he is not in favor of taxing the rich (I believe that includes himself and Cindy too)

"I've got some news, Sen. Obama, the news is bad. So let's not raise anybody's taxes, my friends, and make it be very clear to you I am not in favor of tax cuts for the wealthy. I am in favor of leaving the tax rates alone and reducing the tax burden on middle-income Americans by doubling your tax exemption for every child from $3,500 to $7,000."

and that $7000 is a spit in the bucket Senator McCain and where are you going to get that money from and what about us without kids...how much do we get back because for some God forsaken reason, I wind up owing the gov't annually (not alot but enough to make me hate tax time) and there are some rich bastids out there who don't pay at all.


and ummm what about those fools in AIG that just got bailed out of the financial mess and ran off 400G?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081008/...RKrKCsvaes0NUE


Way off the topic....why is there a storm out there called Norbert? Sheesh....

Good night all