Biden / Palin VP Debate, Oct 2nd @ 9PM EST

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

clue: it's strictly FOR the laffs continue talking about the issues...PLEASE!


Geez you people are sennnnnssssaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhttttiiiiiivee!!

Dang you are gonna let ONE photo stop you from posting?

A photoshopped picture is just bad juju. It has its place in a humor thread, on a humor site, on Fark.com, but not when people are actually wanting to discuss things.

Seriously DS, I've lost a lot of respect for you over the attitude of "HA HA HA SMEAR THE GOP BECAUSE ITS FUNNY" when I do believe you disagree with McCain smearing Obama. Pot, please meet kettle.

[AGDee]

I didn't even notice the kid, I thought the joke was Palin's coat. That said, I much prefer to stick to real issues.

[WarEagle07]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I didn't even notice the kid, I thought the joke was Palin's coat. That said, I much prefer to stick to real issues.

I have to admit, I thought the joke was the coat also.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by WarEagle07

I have to admit, I thought the joke was the coat also.

Me too, but weirdly, I kind of liked the coat. Not as something I would wear myself but just as something that I thought was funny-cute for her to wear. I'm not sure why.

[pinksirfidel]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I didn't even notice the kid, I thought the joke was Palin's coat. That said, I much prefer to stick to real issues.

Ya...good luck with that! McCain is about to throw the kitchen sink at us!

[pinksirfidel]

Okay, I'm disgusted! Just catching up on the news for the day....

Palin's speech rally today--While speaking of the Ayers-Obama link, someone belted out loud "KILL HIM!" No one knows if he was referring to Obama or Ayers! ...and the crowd applauds.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the..._the_roug.html
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/...n-soldiers-on/

McCain's speech rally today--McCain asks the crowd, "who is the real Barack Obama?" An audience member says "A TERRORIST!" ...and the crowd applauds.
Video: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/...ama-terrorist/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_132366.html

Wooooww!! This is where the McCain camp has gone? Why aren't more people outraged!?! This is Bull!! I'm so pissed off that this election is going to dirt. People are loosing there houses, their heath care plans. People are struggling... and the McCain campaign is trying to BRING DOWN Obama personally? John McCain is NO John McCain in these last few months! Let's do what John McCain said (when he was himself) in the beginning of this campaign... "I will speak about the issues, people care about most! Personal attacks have no place in my campaign." These recent attacks are strategic, demeaning and some are border line racist (yup, i said it)!!

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by pinksirfidel

Okay, I'm disgusted! Just catching up on the news for the day....

Palin's speech rally today--While speaking of the Ayers-Obama link, someone belted out loud "KILL HIM!" No one knows if he was referring to Obama or Ayers! ...and the crowd applauds.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the..._the_roug.html
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/...n-soldiers-on/

McCain's speech rally today--McCain asks the crowd, "who is the real Barack Obama?" An audience member says "A TERRORIST!" ...and the crowd applauds.
Video: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/...ama-terrorist/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_132366.html

Wooooww!! This is where the McCain camp has gone? Why aren't more people outraged!?! This is Bull!! I'm so pissed off that this election is going to dirt. People are loosing there houses, their heath care plans. People are struggling... and the McCain campaign is trying to BRING DOWN Obama personally? John McCain is NO John McCain in these last few months! Let's do what John McCain said (when he was himself) in the beginning of this campaign... "I will speak about the issues, people care about most! Personal attacks have no place in my campaign." These recent attacks are strategic, demeaning and some are border line racist (yup, i said it)!!

Can anyone link to the actual audio or video of the events so I can see or hear for myself?

I can see the McCain clip and it leaves me less than outraged. I'm not sure McCain even knew what had been shouted to respond to it even if he had wanted to. And most of the audience laughs at the suggestion that Obama is a terrorist, which I think it probably the correct response. It's a laughable suggestion.

[TexasWSP]

Originally Posted by pinksirfidel

Okay, I'm disgusted! Just catching up on the news for the day....

Palin's speech rally today--While speaking of the Ayers-Obama link, someone belted out loud "KILL HIM!" No one knows if he was referring to Obama or Ayers! ...and the crowd applauds.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the..._the_roug.html
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/...n-soldiers-on/

McCain's speech rally today--McCain asks the crowd, "who is the real Barack Obama?" An audience member says "A TERRORIST!" ...and the crowd applauds.
Video: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/06/...ama-terrorist/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_132366.html

Wooooww!! This is where the McCain camp has gone? Why aren't more people outraged!?! This is Bull!! I'm so pissed off that this election is going to dirt. People are loosing there houses, their heath care plans. People are struggling... and the McCain campaign is trying to BRING DOWN Obama personally? John McCain is NO John McCain in these last few months! Let's do what John McCain said (when he was himself) in the beginning of this campaign... "I will speak about the issues, people care about most! Personal attacks have no place in my campaign." These recent attacks are strategic, demeaning and some are border line racist (yup, i said it)!!

Get the fuck over yourself. Racist? Jesus Christ, Obamanation is a bunch of batshit crazy lunatics.

First of all, I doubt the McCain campaign can do anything about people yelling things at their rallies. Classless on both counts but hardly McCain's fault.

You're pissed about people trying to bring down Black Jesus personally? Wow, hypocrite.......what about what Obamessiah's camp has done to McCain...and Palin for that matter? Pretty sure I've seen/listened to several ads from them that are fucking deplorable. The one making fun of McCain for not being able to use a computer was really cool. Your own VP candidate trashed it live on the air. The first thing Black Jesus did when Palin got announced as VP candidate was the deployment of a team of Obamabots to Alaska to dig up dirt on her. Black Jesus has been running a dirty campaign since day one and you're getting pissed about McCain wanting the United States to realize what kind of complete scum Black Jesus has associated with and used as mentors over the course of his life? I'd say shedding light on associations with radicals and domestic terrorists is completely fair game.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by TexasWSP

Get the fuck over yourself. Racist? Jesus Christ, Obamanation is a bunch of batshit crazy lunatics.

First of all, I doubt the McCain campaign can do anything about people yelling things at their rallies. Classless on both counts but hardly McCain's fault.

You're pissed about people trying to bring down Black Jesus personally? Wow, hypocrite.......what about what Obamessiah's camp has done to McCain...and Palin for that matter? Pretty sure I've seen/listened to several ads from them that are fucking deplorable. The one making fun of McCain for not being able to use a computer was really cool. Your own VP candidate trashed it live on the air. The first thing Black Jesus did when Palin got announced as VP candidate was the deployment of a team of Obamabots to Alaska to dig up dirt on her. Black Jesus has been running a dirty campaign since day one and you're getting pissed about McCain wanting the United States to realize what kind of complete scum Black Jesus has associated with and used as mentors over the course of his life? I'd say shedding lite on associations with radicals and domestic terrorists is completely fair game.

WOW. Regardless of whether or not McCain's ads are racist, or Obama's ad about computers was stupid, or who is doing what at which time and why it was deplorable - You need to tone that down. A lot.

There are a lot of ways that you can say "Obama's campaign has been just as negative if not more negative than McCain's" without using that many curse words and calling Obama "Black Jesus" all the way through.

If you want to add something worthwhile to the discussion, by all means, go ahead. But act like a mature adult.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

WOW. Regardless of whether or not McCain's ads are racist, or Obama's ad about computers was stupid, or who is doing what at which time and why it was deplorable - You need to tone that down. A lot.

There are a lot of ways that you can say "Obama's campaign has been just as negative if not more negative than McCain's" without using that many curse words and calling Obama "Black Jesus" all the way through.

If you want to add something worthwhile to the discussion, by all means, go ahead. But act like a mature adult.

The "Black Jesus" remarks are pretty spot-on with respect to how some Obama supporters feel about their 'great leader.'

For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HMByO1RA4M

It's great that the next President already has his own version of the Hitler Youth

[pinksirfidel]

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

WOW. Regardless of whether or not McCain's ads are racist, or Obama's ad about computers was stupid, or who is doing what at which time and why it was deplorable - You need to tone that down. A lot.

There are a lot of ways that you can say "Obama's campaign has been just as negative if not more negative than McCain's" without using that many curse words and calling Obama "Black Jesus" all the way through.

If you want to add something worthwhile to the discussion, by all means, go ahead. But act like a mature adult.

I thought the very same thing. We've all been really mature while discussing political issues. The tone was not necessary.

Originally Posted by Kevin

The "Black Jesus" remarks are pretty spot-on with respect to how some Obama supporters feel about their 'great leader.'

For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HMByO1RA4M

It's great that the next President already has his own version of the Hitler Youth

You said it best--The "Black Jesus" remarks are pretty spot-on with respect to how some Obama supporters feel about their 'great leader.' I, personally, don't know of anyone who considers Obama their savior.

[pinksirfidel]

Wow...i don't even know where to start, so i'll gladly respond to your questions below...

Originally Posted by TexasWSP

Get the fuck over yourself. Racist? There is really no need to talk to anyone that way. It looks like you need to get over yourself. Yup...I consider it borderline racist when they use his last name as a scare tactic. Jesus Christ, Obamanation is a bunch of batshit crazy lunatics.

First of all, I doubt the McCain campaign can do anything about people yelling things at their rallies. Classless on both counts but hardly McCain's fault. No, he can't control the crowd, of course not. But what kind of response was he looking for?

You're pissed about people trying to bring down Black Jesus personally? Black Jesus? I would compare anyone to Jesus. I'm pissed off that we are talking about stupid issues that have nothing to do with what most of America actually care about. Wow, hypocrite.......what about what Obamessiah's camp has done to McCain...and Palin for that matter? Maybe you haven't read any of my posts, but I don't condone any campaign attacking politicians in areas that have nothing to do with how they will run this country. Pretty sure I've seen/listened to several ads from them that are fucking deplorable. The one making fun of McCain for not being able to use a computer was really cool. Your own VP candidate trashed it live on the air. The first thing Black Jesus did when Palin got announced as VP candidate was the deployment of a team of Obamabots to Alaska to dig up dirt on her. ...and I guess you think there isn't a McCain team doing the same w/ Barack Obama? If so, you're foolin' yourself. Black Jesus has been running a dirty campaign since day one and you're getting pissed about McCain wanting the United States to realize what kind of complete scum Black Jesus has associated with and used as mentors over the course of his life? I'd say shedding light on associations with radicals and domestic terrorists is completely fair game. Funny, McCain would disagree with you....well, that was the McCain a few months ago.

[texas*princess]

... but I will say, for the most part, that didn't seem like a debate.

A debate is someone asking a question, allowing Person A to answer, then allowing Person B to respond to that on the same line and then possibly Person A responding to that response.

A debate is NOT asking a question, allowing Person A to answer, then Person B say "I know I'm not answering the question, but I don't want to talk about that, I want to talk about THIS instead".

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

All of which is why I've just stopped posting in these political threads. I know that if I want to discuss the issues, there are people I can PM (as I've said before, you, nittanyalum, and others).

Reasonable call. I just skip over the posts of certain posters whose posts I've found add little to the discussion. (Sorry, DS.)

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/large_photo.php?id=175

There's the picture off the office of the Alaska governor's website that its photoshopped from (she's making the peace sign and someone took her index finger off).

Thanks. I knew something didn't look right.

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I saw the Target they were building in Wasilla last summer from the Alaska Railroad car I was riding in. There's another store being built in Anchorage. Have no idea if they are open yet or when it will happen.

Huh. Interesting and thanks. Never having been to Alaska, I was basing my claim off of Target's website -- they specifically say "Currently, there are no Target stores in Alaska, Hawaii or Vermont." Maybe they're not open yet?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

A photoshopped picture is just bad juju. It has its place in a humor thread, on a humor site, on Fark.com, but not when people are actually wanting to discuss things.

Seriously DS, I've lost a lot of respect for you over the attitude of "HA HA HA SMEAR THE GOP BECAUSE ITS FUNNY" when I do believe you disagree with McCain smearing Obama. Pot, please meet kettle.

Ok...that is fine...but...here is something that you should see...McCain in his own words contradicts himself as he goes negative this week...you know how they say your words will come back to haunt you...and this is no laughing matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsX2Gx9jl_o

and yeah...you can be mad that people are making fun of the GOP but let's face it...teh GOP has made a laughingstock of the US for the past 8 years and McCAin's running and what he is doing and how he is trying to take our minds off of real problems shows that he just doesn't give a damn.....