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10-03-2008, 11:28 PM
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Biden's big gaffe of the night was on the question about Cheney and the role of the vice-president. He said:
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"he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the Vice President of the United States. That's the executive. He works in the executive branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that."
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Everyone should understand an absolutely false statement about the Constitution from a lawyer who claims to be a Constitutional law expert? Article I is in fact the only place in the Constitution where the role of the vice-president is mentioned, the only problem here is that Article I is what lays out the role and structure of THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH and establishes only that the VP is the President of the Senate but has no vote except in the case of a tie and establishes that there can be a President pro tempore who is to preside over the Senate when the vice-president is absent.
For further information (yes I know "Ace of Spades HQ" is a right-wing libertarian blog and I don't normally read it either, but it lays this particular point out very well) see http://minx.cc/?post=274758
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Last edited by CrackerBarrel; 10-03-2008 at 11:31 PM.
Reason: typed a word in the wrong place
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10-04-2008, 12:17 AM
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Biden's big gaffe of the night was on the question about Cheney and the role of the vice-president. He said:
Everyone should understand an absolutely false statement about the Constitution from a lawyer who claims to be a Constitutional law expert? Article I is in fact the only place in the Constitution where the role of the vice-president is mentioned, the only problem here is that Article I is what lays out the role and structure of THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH and establishes only that the VP is the President of the Senate but has no vote except in the case of a tie and establishes that there can be a President pro tempore who is to preside over the Senate when the vice-president is absent.
For further information (yes I know "Ace of Spades HQ" is a right-wing libertarian blog and I don't normally read it either, but it lays this particular point out very well) see http://minx.cc/?post=274758 |
Yeah, obviously Biden should have mentioned Article II in a perfect world, but in all honesty, no one on Earth gives a shit about this mistake.
We can pick apart minutiae all day, but that doesn't mean it's actually relevant to either campaign - there's just no way McCain can use this "gaffe" in any substantive fashion. It's just not a big deal.
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10-04-2008, 12:27 AM
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Yeah, obviously Biden should have mentioned Article II in a perfect world, but in all honesty, no one on Earth gives a shit about this mistake.
We can pick apart minutiae all day, but that doesn't mean it's actually relevant to either campaign - there's just no way McCain can use this "gaffe" in any substantive fashion. It's just not a big deal.
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at least he knows what the VP does....
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10-04-2008, 02:11 AM
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at least he knows what the VP does....
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Dude - I'll be in DC this spring, I'll buy ya a beer. If for no other reason than to prove that I do indeed like you, plus it'd be hilarious.
But the whole point of the Article I/II misstep is that Biden did not, in fact, indicate that he knew what the VP did. However, it's an esoteric distinction, so no one on Earth would/should care. It's just irony, really.
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10-06-2008, 06:37 PM
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Dude - I'll be in DC this spring, I'll buy ya a beer. If for no other reason than to prove that I do indeed like you, plus it'd be hilarious.
But the whole point of the Article I/II misstep is that Biden did not, in fact, indicate that he knew what the VP did. However, it's an esoteric distinction, so no one on Earth would/should care. It's just irony, really.
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just say the word...and let's hope we both can AFFORD a beer by then!
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