Biden / Palin VP Debate, Oct 2nd @ 9PM EST - Page 12

Benzgirl · #**166** 10-05-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pinksirfidel

Here's the link, if you missed it! Good lord...Tina Fey is DEAD ON!!

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Li...-biden/727421/

I love you! Queen Latifah was excellent. I was sure they would include, "Say it ain't so, Joe".

One sad note, Tina Fey said she will be "done" playing Sarah Palin on November 5th. It will be a long four years if McCain wins and there is no good parody of Palin on SNL.

pinksirfidel · #**167** 10-05-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl

I love you! Queen Latifah was excellent. I was sure they would include, "Say it ain't so, Joe".

One sad note, Tina Fey said she will be "done" playing Sarah Palin on November 5th. It will be a long four years if McCain wins and there is no good parody of Palin on SNL.

Are you serious? I wonder why!?! She makes such a great Sarah! I guess this is just another reason to vote Obama... We don't want someone else to play Sarah for the next four years! lol.

UGAalum94 · #**168** 10-05-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pinksirfidel

Are you serious? I wonder why!?! She makes such a great Sarah! I guess this is just another reason to vote Obama... We don't want someone else to play Sarah! lol.

http://blogs.reuters.com/fanfare/200...fter-november/

I think the deal is that she wants to be done, not that she said absolutely that she will be.

If Palin is back in Alaska, Tina Fay is done.

UGAalum94 · #**169** 10-05-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pinksirfidel

Anything that will take the focus off the economy will work. I'm surprised McCain will go this direction... personal attacks about Obama's connection with various people. McCain has a couple of relationships I'm sure he doesn't want placed in lime light again... that will surely be counter productive. This is definitely not the McCain I remember for the last two decades.

Well, the McCain you remember didn't get the nomination.

So maybe McCain has learned some interesting and maybe unfortunate lessons.

SWTXBelle · #**170** 10-05-2008, 03:16 PM

I'm told I do a wicked Sarah, so if SNL is hiring . . .

pinksirfidel · #**171** 10-05-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Well, the McCain you remember didn't get the nomination.

So maybe McCain has learned some interesting and maybe unfortunate lessons.

True... and I believe he isn't too happy (or comfortable) about some of the things he is being told to do. You can just tell. I never thought this would ever be something we would talk about during this race. McCain, as I remember, is all about "NO Bull" politics.

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I'm told I do a wicked Sarah, so if SNL is hiring . . .

You're just too much! ha ha!

pinksirfidel · #**172** 10-05-2008, 04:18 PM

4PM: MSNBC is now re-airing the Biden/Palin debate w/ the Truth Squad scroller on the bottom of the screen. Every statement is proved true or false! I'm lovin' this.

UGAalum94 · #**173** 10-05-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pinksirfidel

4PM: MSNBC is now re-airing the Biden/Palin debate w/ the Truth Squad scroller on the bottom of the screen. Every statement is proved true or false! I'm lovin' this.

How much is MSNBC "truth" worth to you? More or less than Fox?

pinksirfidel · #**174** 10-05-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

How much is MSNBC "truth" worth to you? More or less than Fox?

I'd say about equal...after the debate Fox News found a couple of false statements Biden made, as well as a couple from Sarah. FOX NEWS (the news, not the Fox News Channel, lol) is generally (i repeat, generally) non-bias...it's everything else on that network that seems to have some right-wing agenda!

MysticCat · #**175** 10-06-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Biden's big gaffe of the night was on the question about Cheney and the role of the vice-president. He said:
Everyone should understand an absolutely false statement about the Constitution from a lawyer who claims to be a Constitutional law expert? Article I is in fact the only place in the Constitution where the role of the vice-president is mentioned, the only problem here is that Article I is what lays out the role and structure of THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH and establishes only that the VP is the President of the Senate but has no vote except in the case of a tie and establishes that there can be a President pro tempore who is to preside over the Senate when the vice-president is absent.

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Yeah, obviously Biden should have mentioned Article II in a perfect world, but in all honesty, no one on Earth gives a shit about this mistake.

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But the whole point of the Article I/II misstep is that Biden did not, in fact, indicate that he knew what the VP did. However, it's an esoteric distinction, so no one on Earth would/should care. It's just irony, really.

Sure it was a misstep to say that Article I creates the Executive, rather than the Legislative, branch -- although it's a misstep I've heard many times from many knowledgable people. (And I would disagree that Article I is the only place the Constitution mentions the role of the Veep. Article II, section 6, lays out the primary role of the vice-president -- to take on the duties of president if necessary.)

But the point was to refute a claim made by Dick Cheney -- that the vice-president's office is part of the legislative branch. (Or, per some other statements, that the office is part of the executive branch and the legislative branch, or that it is not part of either.) Cheney made this claim to explain why his office was not subject to rules signed by Bush on the handling and release of classified documents by executive branch officials and offices. I have yet to see any constitutional scholar, or pretty much anyone outside of Cheney's office, who agrees with Cheney's position. Article I or II, the Veep is in the excecutive branch, pure and simple. That's the point Biden was making and he was right, even if he did refer to Article I when he should have said II.

DaemonSeid · #**176** 10-06-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pinksirfidel

Anything that will take the focus off the economy will work. I'm surprised McCain will go this direction... personal attacks about Obama's connection with various people. McCain has a couple of relationships I'm sure he doesn't want placed in lime light again... that will surely be counter productive. This is definitely not the McCain I remember for the last two decades.

koff koff.. "KEATING FIVE"

DaemonSeid · #**177** 10-06-2008, 03:42 PM

MysticCat · #**178** 10-06-2008, 03:47 PM

^^^ Assuming that it's a real photo and not a photoshop special, how does this add anything constructive? It's hating on Palin just for the sake of hating on her; it's completely irrelevant to the actual campaign. All it does is reduce (even further than some of the stuff you've already posted) the credibility of anything else you say about her.

Munchkin03 · #**179** 10-06-2008, 03:49 PM

Is that her kid or just a random?

Poor little guy!

DaemonSeid · #**180** 10-06-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

^^^ Assuming that it's a real photo and not a photoshop special, how does this add anything constructive? It's hating on Palin just for the sake of hating on her; it's completely irrelevant to the actual campaign. All it does is reduce (even further than some of the stuff you've already posted) the credibility of anything else you say about her.

aww boo hoo!