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Old 09-09-2008, 07:26 PM
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It seems to me that McCain has a much more complicated sale to make: we'll change just enough that we'll get the economy out of this slump and make American better and certainly won't just be like Bush, but we won't change as much as Obama. It's hard to run as the more conservative candidate when you have to work hard not to communicate "we'll give you more of the same" because the current situation is wildly unpopular.
I feel like there are a lot of things McCain could focus on that would indicate that he's going to change the bad things in Washington, while keeping some of the good things. He could focus on the economy, energy, and a more effective strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan. But he chose to take the low road, and so has Gov. Palin. It's unfortunate, because I'm one of those people who really could have gone with McCain.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:52 PM
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I feel like there are a lot of things McCain could focus on that would indicate that he's going to change the bad things in Washington, while keeping some of the good things. He could focus on the economy, energy, and a more effective strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan. But he chose to take the low road, and so has Gov. Palin. It's unfortunate, because I'm one of those people who really could have gone with McCain.
This is one of the best posts on here in weeks, and I agree completely.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:15 PM
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this sums up my feelings also. ive always been independent. i have not been overly impressed with either party for a number of years. i usually vote democratic because that is what i was used to. i have liked mccain because he seemed a bit middle of the road. even if he did not agree with a more liberal stance on certain issues, he seemed willing to consider the possibilities.

right now, with him not saying much--like you say, taking the low road, i am not excited.

for me, i think it may come down to the debates. either way, when its all said and done this will be a very unforgettable election season.

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I feel like there are a lot of things McCain could focus on that would indicate that he's going to change the bad things in Washington, while keeping some of the good things. He could focus on the economy, energy, and a more effective strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan. But he chose to take the low road, and so has Gov. Palin. It's unfortunate, because I'm one of those people who really could have gone with McCain.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:56 PM
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I feel like there are a lot of things McCain could focus on that would indicate that he's going to change the bad things in Washington, while keeping some of the good things. He could focus on the economy, energy, and a more effective strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan. But he chose to take the low road, and so has Gov. Palin. It's unfortunate, because I'm one of those people who really could have gone with McCain.
I definitely wish he would adjust his campaigning. I think the election is so close, and the Palin choice hasn't come back to bite him yet, so he would want to put the good things on the table.

I'm hoping it changes soon; he's not in any danger of losing my vote, but, I can see where you and other voters are coming from.
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:59 PM
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I don't see him taking the low road, but there's still time for more message.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:00 PM
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I feel like there are a lot of things McCain could focus on that would indicate that he's going to change the bad things in Washington, while keeping some of the good things. He could focus on the economy, energy, and a more effective strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan. But he chose to take the low road, and so has Gov. Palin. It's unfortunate, because I'm one of those people who really could have gone with McCain.
He's busy focusing on silly ads. Obama supported a bill to protect children from preditors. The McCain camp ran an ad titled "Sex Ed for Kindergarteners." I don't ever remember John McCain taking the low road. This is rediculous! Whether or not you agree that "inappropropriate touching" should be taught in schools, you have to admit that the ad is missleading. You assume Obama want to pass out condoms to 5 year olds. The ads are getting dirty. The rest of the election season should be interesting!

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Old 09-11-2008, 09:19 AM
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He's busy focusing on silly ads. Obama supported a bill to protect children from preditors. The McCain camp ran an ad titled "Sex Ed for Kindergarteners." I don't ever remember John McCain taking the low road. This is rediculous! Whether or not you agree that "inappropropriate touching" should be taught in schools, you have to admit that the ad is missleading. You assume Obama want to pass out condoms to 5 year olds. The ads are getting dirty. The rest of the election season should be interesting!

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And its not just the ads... I stated before that McCain scares me. I use to really like McCain but I feel he has realized that he needs to change in order to get POTUS. He has switched on issues, which is not uncommon, but the switches have rather bad timing that suggest they are to boost poll number. He has voted against his own legislation. He picked a gimmick for VP... someone who could be a great Repub. nom. in the future, but far too early for her. There are some great picks, far more experience, far more electable and far more sustainable. He is playing the election, which you can says is politics, and sure, you got to get into office in order to do what you want as POTUS, but I just feel that he has passed the Repub. primaries, and he can go back to his maverick TRUE self now, because he is generally a well liked guy who has great ideas, etc. I need to see that McCain, and maybe this die hard liberal will vote for him. Well, actually, its too late now, I care FARRR to much about social issues to have Palin CLOSE to the oval office.
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:55 AM
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McCain has shown very little support for vets

**Ahem....relocated...hehehe**

Some of us had this discussion a few months ago about McCain being a POW and a vet. Some of you didn't like the idea that I was put offish about his status being more concerned about what he did in office as opposed to what he did during the war. Fine...cool. BUT...like I said, you served your country years ago...what are you doing NOW.

Just did a lil digging and what I find is bothersome. For someone that has the status and position to do something for those that has been in some of the same situations as he is/was....he looks like he doesn't show any love for fellow vets.

the link shows in numerous cases, he has voted against bills that in many cases could probably help a lot of vets and even voted FOR a bill that would outsouce jobs from Walter P Reed Medical Center.

Here is the link: http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/mccain_vets.cfm

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Old 09-11-2008, 11:20 AM
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**Ahem....relocated...hehehe**
Thanks - this thread is available for people to go on their partisan attacks of the other candidates.. No need to start hijacking other threads.

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Old 09-11-2008, 11:32 AM
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Thanks - this thread is available for people to go on their partisan attacks of the other candidates.. No need to start hijacking other threads.

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maybe you should apply for the job.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:43 AM
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I'm so glad McCain & Obama put their crap aside today and will not be showing their negative ads on TV.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:56 AM
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I'm so glad McCain & Obama put their crap aside today and will not be showing their negative ads on TV.
Yes, but wouldn't it be better if they just stopped showing their negative ads all together? I think that would be a much honorable way to pay homage to the victims of 9/11
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:27 PM
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Yes, but wouldn't it be better if they just stopped showing their negative ads all together? I think that would be a much honorable way to pay homage to the victims of 9/11

I wish. Frankly, I'd be so much happier right now if I didn't have to endure their ads everytime I watch TV or listen to the radio. Still, I understand why they are playing them but I don't have to like them. Other than the news, I DVR most of my shows and then forward through the commercials.


One last note, I really thought that neither candidate was going to speak at any of the events today but I saw John McCain speaking at one of them (not sure if Obama spoke).
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