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08-05-2008, 03:47 PM
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I can think of at least 5 different movies that may have given Greeks a bad rep in recent years. Oh, and hey...there was a BOOK that was published that people went apeshit over because they thought it gave Greeks a bad rep. And don't forget MTV's Sorority Life and Fraternity Life! They thought it was going to give Greeks a bad rep too.
Guess what? Greeks didn't suffer because of it. This isn't bad, compared to the negative media we hear and read about by real-life fraternity and sorority members.
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08-05-2008, 05:17 PM
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I can think of at least 5 different movies that may have given Greeks a bad rep in recent years. Oh, and hey...there was a BOOK that was published that people went apeshit over because they thought it gave Greeks a bad rep. And don't forget MTV's Sorority Life and Fraternity Life! They thought it was going to give Greeks a bad rep too.
Guess what? Greeks didn't suffer because of it. This isn't bad, compared to the negative media we hear and read about by real-life fraternity and sorority members. 
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I agree! If anything, it has helped w/ recruitment. I can't tell you how many times I have heard PNMs talk about a book or movie and asked if we did the same things. I will be the first to say that many of the things being said about greek life are true. The problem is that is only illustrates small, dramatic, yet interesting minority... i.e. drinking, parting, hazing. Honestly, I don't think a movie would be all that interesting if they showed sorority girls excelling in their classes, doing community service, donating money to their universities, etc...
Now I do have a problem using established organizations w/o thier consent, in these movies, tv shows, etc.
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08-05-2008, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OTW
I can think of at least 5 different movies that may have given Greeks a bad rep in recent years. Oh, and hey...there was a BOOK that was published that people went apeshit over because they thought it gave Greeks a bad rep. And don't forget MTV's Sorority Life and Fraternity Life! They thought it was going to give Greeks a bad rep too.
Guess what? Greeks didn't suffer because of it. This isn't bad, compared to the negative media we hear and read about by real-life fraternity and sorority members. 
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Not only that, but like it or not, chapter image issues/drinking/partying IS a part of Greek life. It's not the ONLY part of it, but it is a fraction nonetheless. And it's not part of the sunshine & roses picture we like to paint about Greek life (all we do is study to get good grades and raise money for the non-profits and hold hands and sing Kumbayah and we NEVER have any problems with any of the people we call our sisters!)
I believe Greek Life as a whole is a great thing, but we're kidding ourselves if we are telling people drinking never happens, or we never disagree about anything, or no one judges the other groups. Even those not in groups judge them.
And if someone could please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought NPHC Zeta Phi Beta's refer to themselves as "Zetas". Is ZTA going to get all upset about that? Or do they not count because ZPhiB is a national org? Locals use "Zeta" all the time.
On my first campus for example, there was a local, Zeta Phi Omicron that referred to themselves as "Zetas". One of their colors was also turquoise. And no, they weren't trying to copy ZTA. For over 15 years they existed and didn't even know who ZTA was until the school wanted them to affiliate with NPCs and they started reading up about the NPC orgs.
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08-05-2008, 11:57 PM
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Not only that, but like it or not, chapter image issues/drinking/partying IS a part of Greek life. It's not the ONLY part of it, but it is a fraction nonetheless. And it's not part of the sunshine & roses picture we like to paint about Greek life (all we do is study to get good grades and raise money for the non-profits and hold hands and sing Kumbayah and we NEVER have any problems with any of the people we call our sisters!)
I believe Greek Life as a whole is a great thing, but we're kidding ourselves if we are telling people drinking never happens, or we never disagree about anything, or no one judges the other groups. Even those not in groups judge them.
And if someone could please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought NPHC Zeta Phi Beta's refer to themselves as "Zetas". Is ZTA going to get all upset about that? Or do they not count because ZPhiB is a national org? Locals use "Zeta" all the time.
On my first campus for example, there was a local, Zeta Phi Omicron that referred to themselves as "Zetas". One of their colors was also turquoise. And no, they weren't trying to copy ZTA. For over 15 years they existed and didn't even know who ZTA was until the school wanted them to affiliate with NPCs and they started reading up about the NPC orgs.
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I couldn't agree with you more!
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08-06-2008, 12:19 AM
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Three weeks after this movie comes out no one is going to give a flying f-ck about whether or not it "portrays Greeks in a negative light" (and I'm being nice here by giving it three weeks).
People can search on Google or www.YourCampusNewspaper.com for REAL occurrences that give us a bad rep.
Stop bitching.
If a movie came out about fraternities and one was named Tau Kappa Chi and their nicknames were "Teke," and the chapter was filled with a bunch of drunkards I really wouldn't care because Lord knows there's at LEAST one (or a few dozen, lol) Teke chapter that fits that stereotype.
Whoever says that there is no ZTA chapter that is struggling and is known as the "fat, nerdy, ugly" chapter on their campus is full of shit- especially since ZTA is the 3rd largest NPC sorority.
I wouldn't be surprised if the real issue at hand with Zeta and this movie was the way the girls are portrayed. Would anyone be making a big deal if the Zetas in the movie were affluent, attractive, smart young women?
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08-06-2008, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by texas*princess
Not only that, but like it or not, chapter image issues/drinking/partying IS a part of Greek life. It's not the ONLY part of it, but it is a fraction nonetheless. And it's not part of the sunshine & roses picture we like to paint about Greek life (all we do is study to get good grades and raise money for the non-profits and hold hands and sing Kumbayah and we NEVER have any problems with any of the people we call our sisters!)
I believe Greek Life as a whole is a great thing, but we're kidding ourselves if we are telling people drinking never happens, or we never disagree about anything, or no one judges the other groups. Even those not in groups judge them.
And if someone could please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought NPHC Zeta Phi Beta's refer to themselves as "Zetas". Is ZTA going to get all upset about that? Or do they not count because ZPhiB is a national org? Locals use "Zeta" all the time.
On my first campus for example, there was a local, Zeta Phi Omicron that referred to themselves as "Zetas". One of their colors was also turquoise. And no, they weren't trying to copy ZTA. For over 15 years they existed and didn't even know who ZTA was until the school wanted them to affiliate with NPCs and they started reading up about the NPC orgs.
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I think ZTA is upset because of the use of Zeta AND similar colours. If House Bunny ZETA used, say, blue and silver, they probably wouldn't be as upset.
By the way: Remember the movie Pumpkin? The sorority in the movie was Alpha Omega Pi - AOPi for short. What did Alpha OMICRON Pi have to say about that?
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