Why do LGLO/MCGLOs follow NPHC practices?

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

It just sounded like when non-IFC/NPC Greeks say that all the IFC/NPC groups do is party and they don't do any service for the community, which isn't the case.

On my campus IFC/NPC Greeks do more community service way more than the NPHC and other MCGLOs do.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

On my campus IFC/NPC Greeks do more community service way more than the NPHC and other MCGLOs do.

It's possible that the latter two just aren't doing the service on campus.

[Little32]

Some discussion of that here too.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...t=86289&page=2

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

True. There are some campuses where if IFC/NPC groups throw up hand signs it isn't seen as a form of mocking or being disrespectful, but apparently at her campus it was.

Most IFC/NPC chapters either do not do a handsign (even if their organization has had a handsign for decades) or only do the handsign at certain times. So it isn't uncommon for IFCers and NPCers to not be familiar with their org's handsign, so of course nonIFC and nonNPCers will attribute handsigns to the orgs that are the most visible with them.

Outside of GC I have never seen NPCers and IFCers acknowledge that they have a handsign.

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

It just sounded like when non-IFC/NPC Greeks say that all the IFC/NPC groups do is party and they don't do any service for the community, which isn't the case.

To me, it sounded like she's saying she can think of better things to duplicate. Not assuming that all of the IFC/NPC orgs on her campus weren't doing service, but I'd rather people get service motivation and ideas from one another (and even "compete" over who is servicing their community the most----if they want something to create pissing contests over) than unnecessarily adopt stepping and calls if most chapters in their organizations don't have them.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

It's possible that the latter two just aren't doing the service on campus.

I'm not saying they do none, I'm saying I hear/see more IFC/NPC orgs here doing service than the others.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

I'm not saying they do none, I'm saying I hear/see more IFC/NPC orgs here doing service than the others.

I got what you were saying. I'm saying that it's possible that the service that the NPHC and LGLO/MCGLOs partook in were done off campus.

In my chapter, for example, we have a few service events that we do on campus (annual/bi-annual events). The bulk of our service, though, is done either off campus on our own, or with other chapters. These events may not be known to all the other Greeks, but trust that they get done.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

I'm not saying they do none, I'm saying I hear/see more IFC/NPC orgs here doing service than the others.

Which doesn't mean they actually do more.

I find that people just aren't familiar with what the other councils are doing. This is why I love campuses with Greek Offices that keep all the councils and campus community involved and informed about what every GLO is doing. That's how I was really able to know which IFC, NPC, and NPHC orgs truly WEREN'T doing anything (or were just doing a couple things a semester, which is lame) on or off campus.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Which doesn't mean they actually do more.

I find that people just aren't familiar with what the other councils are doing. This is why I love campuses with Greek Offices that keep all the councils and campus community involved and informed about what every GLO is doing. That's how I was really able to know which IFC, NPC, and NPHC orgs truly WEREN'T doing anything (or were just doing a couple things a semester, which is lame) on or off campus.

Considering I know people from NPHC, Latino and Asian MCGLOs on campus, they don't do that much service. Nearly all of the events they have are ones where they show off their heritage.

Kind of derailing the topic, but MCGLO at my school have been on the decline, while IFC/NPC are on the rise. I don't know if this is a trend, but more students from different ethnicities are going towards IFC/NPC organizations. I know SLG and SLB are severely lacking new members and are down to mostly Juniors/Seniors with a very small minority of Sophomores/Freshmen.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

It just sounded like when non-IFC/NPC Greeks say that all the IFC/NPC groups do is party and they don't do any service for the community, which isn't the case.

Come on, the average GCer knows that every org does service, on a national level at least. what the local chapter does of course is going to vary.

i just feel like those who mock are similar to Company A who come out with Product(tm) or PromotionalDealDuJour and then Company B, C and D do exactly the same thing. the example that comes to mind is how Subway's $5 Footlong. I dont even LIKE Subway, but for $5 ill take a sandwich. Meanwhile I LOVE LOVE LOVE Quiznos and while they also have the $5 subs, its really doesnt come up on my radar in the way Subway would. Quiznos is doing what Subway is doing, but i doubt they are going to accomplish what Subway did - in my opinion, kept their name relevant and on everyone's mind (cause lord knows i cant get that jingle out my head).

theyre doing what the first ones did, but not necessarily trying to accomplish what the first ones accomplished (or end up missing the mark overall).

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Considering I know people from NPHC, Latino and Asian MCGLOs on campus, they don't do that much service. Nearly all of the events they have are ones where they show off their heritage.

How can you be sure the members that you know are telling you everything on their respective calendars? Perhaps the people you know are the ones not doing any service activities?

Kind of derailing the topic, but MCGLO at my school have been on the decline, while IFC/NPC are on the rise. I don't know if this is a trend, but more students from different ethnicities are going towards IFC/NPC organizations. I know SLG and SLB are severely lacking new members and are down to mostly Juniors/Seniors with a very small minority of Sophomores/Freshmen.

FYI - Gammas and Betas are not multicultural.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

How can you be sure the members that you know are telling you everything on their respective calendars? Perhaps the people you know are the ones not doing any service activities?



FYI - Gammas and Betas are not multicultural.

Gammas and Betas sit on our Multicultural Greek Council and are Latina/Latino oriented. How are they not multicultural?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Considering I know people from NPHC, Latino and Asian MCGLOs on campus, they don't do that much service.

I knew people from NPC and IFC organizations but didn't know all the service they did unless it was specifically reported to us. I doubt you really know what you're talking about.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I doubt you really know what you're talking about.

I trust my friend telling me, "Yeah we didn't do that much service because we didn't have any time" over someone on GreekChat.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Gammas and Betas sit on our Multicultural Greek Council and are Latina/Latino oriented. How are they not multicultural?

Several of NALFO's organizations do sit on multicultural councils at the local level, but aren't multicultural organizations. SLB and SLG may have multicultural membership, but neither is multicultural in focus.

More here:
http://www.nalfo.org/members.htm
http://www.sigmalambdagamma.com/
http://www.sigmalambdabeta.com/

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Several of NALFO's organizations do sit on multicultural councils, but they aren't multicultural organizations. They may have multicultural membership, but neither in multicultural in focus.

More here:
http://www.nalfo.org/members.htm
http://www.sigmalambdagamma.com/
http://www.sigmalambdabeta.com/

Wow, I didn't know that. This is good to know, thanks.