100 Students Arrested - which fraternity is involved?

[SoCalGirl]

None of the news report have mentioned targeting anyone who purchased the drugs. Though it wouldn't be unreasonable that they kept a record. Actually the dealers probably kept a handy record complete with chapter letters.

[sdsuchelle]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

None of the news report have mentioned targeting anyone who purchased the drugs. Though it wouldn't be unreasonable that they kept a record. Actually the dealers probably kept a handy record complete with chapter letters.

On that PDF file with the mugshots that fox6.com has, it says stuff like "Student #7: drug user"... so I'm guessing they did arrest some buyers? I don't know.

I wouldn't be surprised if they had a record with chapter letters, considering that text that was sent out! LOL.

[sdsuchelle]

Do you guys think this could potentially shut down the entire greek system at SDSU? Or am I getting really out-there with my fears?

I mean we have enough problems with being pegged as a party school.. this just makes it even worse.

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

Do you guys think this could potentially shut down the entire greek system at SDSU? Or am I getting really out-there with my fears?

I mean we have enough problems with being pegged as a party school.. this just makes it even worse.

To be blatantly honest I think all of the shenanigans would be a whole lot worst if there wasn't a greek system. The system keeps it contained to some degree.

[DeltAlum]

There will certainly be calls to shut down the system.

It could happen, I suppose.

I wonder how much effect this will have on other campuses across the country, and whether there will be other sweeping investigations elsewhere -- and dread what some might find.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

There will certainly be calls to shut down the system.

It could happen, I suppose.

I wonder how much effect this will have on other campuses across the country, and whether there will be other sweeping investigations elsewhere -- and dread what some might find.

From what I have seen posted on GC, seem as if TPTB are starting to not only look at RM issues harder but acting on them as well.

I agree with your thoughts DA, more is coming down the road.

[DEVODUDE]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

There will certainly be calls to shut down the system.

It could happen, I suppose.

I wonder how much effect this will have on other campuses across the country, and whether there will be other sweeping investigations elsewhere -- and dread what some might find.

I do not think shutting down the Greek system will happen. From what I read in a previous response, SDSU have a lot of Alumni supporters that are greek. The worst that could happen is that the six fraternities involved would be either placed on probation or suspension depending on the internal investigation by both the university and their IHQ. However, this situation can cause many School Adminsrtators to carefully look at their Greek System under a microscope.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by Braindea

I think the very least will be expulsion for the houses where the DEA says there was an organized conspiracy. If that extends to the majority of the Fraternities (and it is possible, but not probable IMO), then it could threaten the school's support for GLO in general.

One other thing to remember is that there are a lot of Alumni Association and Athletic Foundation supporters who also run and support their chapter's Alumni Associations who lobby strongly for them. If they make the "few bad apples" case, and fully support efforts for rooting it out - then I think the Greek System at SDSU will be the stronger for it.

Good question. I guess my answer is "I hope not".

- Rick

I may have missed something. Has there been any comment that the groups were acting together as an organized conspiracy or were they their own "businesses" with similar product?

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by jon1856

I may have missed something. Has there been any comment that the groups were acting together as an organized conspiracy or were they their own "businesses" with similar product?

I recall one of the articles saying the connection's been made with some over-the-border "cartels" who were the initial major suppliers, and then some of the selling was done in "resale quantities" to other students, making another level of suppliers and pushers on campus.

[jon1856]

SAN DIEGO -- The undercover officers started to appear at San Diego State fraternity parties about six months ago.

They dressed like students, complained about their parents and professors, and talked freely and knowingly of things of great interest on campus: music, sex and drugs.
Soon they were accepted, with no questions asked. They were spotted at student hangouts on and off campus. They swapped cellphone numbers with other partygoers. They text-messaged their newfound friends.

The real students appeared to accept the pretend ones -- most but not all of whom were men. On a campus of 34,000 students, blending into the crowd was not difficult. Neither was collecting evidence of drug dealing and drug use.

On Tuesday, authorities announced that 96 young men -- including 75 students -- had been arrested on a variety of drug charges as a result of Operation Sudden Fall, which infiltrated seven fraternities on Fraternity Row and Fraternity Circle. Officials said the name of the operation referred to the prospect of sudden death from drug usage......


.....Although the investigation was widely praised in San Diego, the nationwide group Drug Policy Alliance blasted it as "sensationalistic" and futile. The group believes in the decriminalization of marijuana and favors increased drug education and treatment over mass arrests.

"College students on any campus in this country are easy pickings," said Margaret Dooley-Sammuli, the group's deputy state director for Southern California. "But these types of arrests are not the best use of the DEA's resources. They should be targeting large-scale traffickers and distributors."

According to the DEA, the seized evidence included 4 pounds of cocaine, 50 pounds of marijuana, 48 hydroponic marijuana plants, 350 Ecstasy pills, 30 vials of hash oil, methamphetamine, psilocybin (mushrooms), various illicit prescription drugs, a shotgun, three semiautomatic pistols, three brass knuckles and $60,000 in cash.

Officials put the value of the seized drugs at more than $100,000. They said the marijuana was high-grade and probably grown locally because marijuana smuggled from Mexico is usually of a lower quality.........

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...5.story?page=1

And the comment section is a read unto itself.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by jon1856

They dressed like students, complained about their parents and professors, and talked freely and knowingly of things of great interest on campus: music, sex and drugs.

Soon they were accepted, with no questions asked. They were spotted at student hangouts on and off campus. They swapped cellphone numbers with other partygoers. They text-messaged their newfound friends.

It really IS just like 21 Jump Street!!!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by jon1856

three brass knuckles

Where do you put the third one? Or did someone wash them and lose one in the machine?

[sigmaK619]

Originally Posted by jon1856

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"College students on any campus in this country are easy pickings," said Margaret Dooley-Sammuli, the group's deputy state director for Southern California. "But these types of arrests are not the best use of the DEA's resources. They should be targeting large-scale traffickers and distributors."

From my experience as a prosecutor, most of the kids arrested (at least not the ones involved higher up in the "ring") are going to get a slap on the wrist for either possession of a small amount of marijuana, disorderly conduct or the like. I am not familiar with CA statutes, but in Minnesota these convictions usually don't carry a jail sentence with them, just probation and community service. So I can see why people would be critical of the use of the DEA's resources.

[idkk]

If what I am hearing is true, its not looking good for the SDSU greek system (fraternities in particular) as this is not the only thing that will be affecting it in the near future...

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by idkk

If what I am hearing is true, its not looking good for the SDSU greek system (fraternities in particular) as this is not the only thing that will be affecting it in the near future...

Cryptic much?