The 2008 presidential field at-a-glance

[LeslieAGD]

Honestly, I hate all these friggin' websites! Every single one has different numbers concerning the delegates.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by LeslieAGD

Honestly, I hate all these friggin' websites! Every single one has different numbers concerning the delegates.

This is because they're estimating differently; vote tallies aren't final, and "superdelegates" aren't finalized at all, although some have intimated they will follow the popular vote, some have ties to Clinton/Obama, and some are likely to follow brokered deals at the DNC if Obama pulls off the remaining states (which are mostly Midwestern or have a large black population) and keeps things effectively deadlocked. Clinton has a large edge in superdelegates right now, but that could rapidly change.

I wouldn't worry about actual delegate counts at all, actually - they'll be fluid until the DNC, plus Michigan and Florida delegates are going to try to be seated (and no one knows what the hell will happen there), plus superdelegates have no structure to their votes. Absolutely no one will know or agree.

[skylark]

Originally Posted by LeslieAGD

Honestly, I hate all these friggin' websites! Every single one has different numbers concerning the delegates.

Some of the changing might be because not all states have everything counted (which is the case in Calif.) so estimates of the final delegate count vary for a certain amount of time, I guess.

Another discrepancy I've seen is that some websites are counting the "superdelegates" as if they had already been pledged to a certain candidate, which isn't the case at all. The superdelegates can go however they want to come the national convention. If you take out the superdelegates, the most recent delegate counts have Barack ahead of Hillary.

[skylark]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

This is because they're estimating differently; vote tallies aren't final, and "superdelegates" aren't finalized at all, although some have intimated they will follow the popular vote, some have ties to Clinton/Obama, and some are likely to follow brokered deals at the DNC if Obama pulls off the remaining states (which are mostly Midwestern or have a large black population) and keeps things effectively deadlocked. Clinton has a large edge in superdelegates right now, but that could rapidly change.

jinx, you owe me a coke :-)

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by skylark

jinx, you owe me a coke :-)

I love that ad with Carville and Frist.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by skylark at 6:21

jinx, you owe me a coke :-)

Originally Posted by KSig RC at 06:19

I am awesome

Looks like I beat you there by a few minutes - this means you owe me the Coke, shooter. Hey, I don't make the rules.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Does anyone else really get a little crazy over trying to figure out how each state & each party decides their delegate distribution? It seems so unfair to me that California, with such a high population is "winner takes all" (at least for the Democrats). According to Yahoo!, Clinton took 52% and Obama took 42% of the vote, yet Clinton took all the delegates.

Can anyone recommend a really good map or list for each state, and the delegate distribution?

If you follow links on CNN's site, you find out a great deal:
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Does that mean you're going to the National Convention? Or is there another level between now and then?

I wish - I'm going to the Senate District/County Unit Convention. After that is the Congressional District Convention, then the State Convention, then the National. I won't be living in this state anymore before the national so I'm applying with the state I'm moving to for a superdelegate position.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

I wish - I'm going to the Senate District/County Unit Convention. After that is the Congressional District Convention, then the State Convention, then the National. I won't be living in this state anymore before the national so I'm applying with the state I'm moving to for a superdelegate position.

Very cool! Good luck!

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

I wish - I'm going to the Senate District/County Unit Convention. After that is the Congressional District Convention, then the State Convention, then the National. I won't be living in this state anymore before the national so I'm applying with the state I'm moving to for a superdelegate position.

Candice would be so proud!

[sunnyhibiscus]

I have a question, do you think that if Obama loses Texas and win the majority of the remaining states. do you think that he'll get the nomination?

I doubt that Obama will win Texas, because he's having trouble with the Latino votes. And of course, Texas has a lot of Latino voters.

[33girl]

Romney just quit.

"If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," Romney told the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

I'm sorry, but what a dweeb.

[Tom Earp]

Well, the field is really narrowing down on both sides.

The field still sucks!

[skylark]

Originally Posted by sunnyhibiscus

I doubt that Obama will win Texas, because he's having trouble with the Latino votes. And of course, Texas has a lot of Latino voters.

I don't know though... Obama has done really well in states that are traditionally very conservative, even with Latinos in those states. From what I can tell it is the blue-state-Latinos he has trouble with. With republican and independent Latinos, he does better. I paid attention in particular when Obama won a county in Idaho that is particularly known for having a high Latino population. He ended up winning that county by 76%.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

I wish - I'm going to the Senate District/County Unit Convention. After that is the Congressional District Convention, then the State Convention, then the National. I won't be living in this state anymore before the national so I'm applying with the state I'm moving to for a superdelegate position.

Congratulations! Please keep posting about it - it's such an amazing process, and I can't possibly be the only one who will want to hear all about it!