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Old 02-08-2008, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jon1856 View Post
And just who was it who said that we will be in Iraq for 100 years???

War on terror was NOT, as most people understand now, in Iraq.
Now it is.
Right, McCain supports staying in Iraq. C and B do not, as near as I can tell based on what they seem to be saying right now.

And the war on terror including Iraq now isn't some Republican rhetorical trope; it's reality.

Do you imagine that the insurgents are legitimate combatants in a recognized civil war? Who wins if we leave Iraq today? I don't think it's the Iraqi people.

No doubt, we'd all decide not to go into Iraq if we knew then what we know now. But just pulling our forces out doesn't leave Iraq in the same situation it was in before we went in. I think we can all agree on that.

The GOP candidates all seem to hold that we've got an obligation to stay and more to lose if the terror networks presently in Iraq are allowed to win and continue to undermine the democratically elected government.

As near as I can tell the US Democratic position seems to be something like let's cut our losses; it was a mistake; let's quit spending good money after bad.

It's hard for me to not also see that the Democratic position either includes a little element of "It was W's bad, so it's not our problem, so f the Iraqis if it comes to that" or a denial that the newly elected pres. will in fact have to leave more forces in Iraq than the candidates want to admit.

ETA: the Democratic position also, of course, holds that war is bad. And it is, unless you're fighting something worse which is a much harder call to make e.g. most people's attitudes about Darfur where people seem to want military intervention, so they'll just go with war is bad and hope that Iraq isn't so destabilized that there's genocide if we pull out.

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