The 2008 presidential field at-a-glance

[LeslieAGD]

Honestly, I hate all these friggin' websites! Every single one has different numbers concerning the delegates.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by LeslieAGD

Honestly, I hate all these friggin' websites! Every single one has different numbers concerning the delegates.

This is because they're estimating differently; vote tallies aren't final, and "superdelegates" aren't finalized at all, although some have intimated they will follow the popular vote, some have ties to Clinton/Obama, and some are likely to follow brokered deals at the DNC if Obama pulls off the remaining states (which are mostly Midwestern or have a large black population) and keeps things effectively deadlocked. Clinton has a large edge in superdelegates right now, but that could rapidly change.

I wouldn't worry about actual delegate counts at all, actually - they'll be fluid until the DNC, plus Michigan and Florida delegates are going to try to be seated (and no one knows what the hell will happen there), plus superdelegates have no structure to their votes. Absolutely no one will know or agree.

[skylark]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

This is because they're estimating differently; vote tallies aren't final, and "superdelegates" aren't finalized at all, although some have intimated they will follow the popular vote, some have ties to Clinton/Obama, and some are likely to follow brokered deals at the DNC if Obama pulls off the remaining states (which are mostly Midwestern or have a large black population) and keeps things effectively deadlocked. Clinton has a large edge in superdelegates right now, but that could rapidly change.

jinx, you owe me a coke :-)

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by skylark

jinx, you owe me a coke :-)

I love that ad with Carville and Frist.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by skylark at 6:21

jinx, you owe me a coke :-)

Originally Posted by KSig RC at 06:19

I am awesome

Looks like I beat you there by a few minutes - this means you owe me the Coke, shooter. Hey, I don't make the rules.

[sunnyhibiscus]

I have a question, do you think that if Obama loses Texas and win the majority of the remaining states. do you think that he'll get the nomination?

I doubt that Obama will win Texas, because he's having trouble with the Latino votes. And of course, Texas has a lot of Latino voters.

[33girl]

Romney just quit.

"If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," Romney told the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

I'm sorry, but what a dweeb.

[Tom Earp]

Well, the field is really narrowing down on both sides.

The field still sucks!

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Romney just quit.

"If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," Romney told the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

I'm sorry, but what a dweeb.

I thought very much the same as I heard his speech.
I do not believe that anyone, at this time, would not and does not support the war on terrorism.

All he did was pick up on one of Bush's favorite comments.

Seems as if the party's gloves are now off. This is just the start of the mud slinging I fear.

On another note; the WSJ suggested a non-partisan web site to follow matters; including delegate counts.
It is:
http://realclearpolitics.com/

[Tom Earp]

With Mitt, it made me wonder to much about the money out of pocket to attain this position and scared the heck out of me.

He looks good and is very presentable but, there is/was a big but in my mind and evidently others as well.

Stiil on the list:

Demos:Hill and O

Repubs: Mac and Huck.

God where are we going to end up after this election finally gets over.

I also noticed in the posters link how the polls came out for both Bush and the legislature. Doesn't look good at any end of the spectrum.

[skylark]

Originally Posted by sunnyhibiscus

I doubt that Obama will win Texas, because he's having trouble with the Latino votes. And of course, Texas has a lot of Latino voters.

I don't know though... Obama has done really well in states that are traditionally very conservative, even with Latinos in those states. From what I can tell it is the blue-state-Latinos he has trouble with. With republican and independent Latinos, he does better. I paid attention in particular when Obama won a county in Idaho that is particularly known for having a high Latino population. He ended up winning that county by 76%.

[skylark]

Originally Posted by LeslieAGD

Honestly, I hate all these friggin' websites! Every single one has different numbers concerning the delegates.

Some of the changing might be because not all states have everything counted (which is the case in Calif.) so estimates of the final delegate count vary for a certain amount of time, I guess.

Another discrepancy I've seen is that some websites are counting the "superdelegates" as if they had already been pledged to a certain candidate, which isn't the case at all. The superdelegates can go however they want to come the national convention. If you take out the superdelegates, the most recent delegate counts have Barack ahead of Hillary.