The 2008 presidential field at-a-glance - Page 12

jon1856 · #**166** 02-07-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Romney just quit.

"If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," Romney told the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

I'm sorry, but what a dweeb.

I thought very much the same as I heard his speech.
I do not believe that anyone, at this time, would not and does not support the war on terrorism.

All he did was pick up on one of Bush's favorite comments.

Seems as if the party's gloves are now off. This is just the start of the mud slinging I fear.

On another note; the WSJ suggested a non-partisan web site to follow matters; including delegate counts.
It is:
http://realclearpolitics.com/

UGAalum94 · #**167** 02-07-2008, 06:25 PM

Really, guys? You think Obama and Clinton are as committed to the war on terror, including the war in Iraq, as McCain is?

I don't think they're pro-terror or at least see themselves in that sense, but I think there's a huge difference in their attitudes about military action and policy and that of McCain.

I'm not trying to get into which is actually the correct attitude to hold, but if you believe that McCain is correct about Iraq as I think Romney does, there is a big reason to think his victory in the general, over two candidates who basically said they'd pull out of Iraq quickly, is important.

33girl · #**168** 02-07-2008, 06:34 PM

I was simply stating that Romney is a dweeb to say that's why he's quitting when the real reason he's quitting is because he got his ass handed to him on a plate.

aopirose · #**169** 02-07-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I was simply stating that Romney is a dweeb to say that's why he's quitting when the real reason he's quitting is because he got his ass handed to him on a plate.

My thought too.

#**170** 02-07-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I was simply stating that Romney is a dweeb to say that's why he's quitting when the real reason he's quitting is because he got his ass handed to him on a plate.

You know and I know he intends to run for office again. Better to quit now and make the GOP happy so they'll support him in a few years.

KSig RC · #**171** 02-07-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I was simply stating that Romney is a dweeb to say that's why he's quitting when the real reason he's quitting is because he got his ass handed to him on a plate.

. . . and one thing about being that far behind is that continuing to push while having your "ass handed to [you]" is that it detracts from your party's chances of winning, which indirectly does all of the things he mentioned (in his mind).

So he's not really being all that disingenuous here - they're both the "reason" he's quitting. One is the general cause, the other is why he's specifically choosing this moment instead of 2 weeks from now.

UGAalum94 · #**172** 02-07-2008, 08:15 PM

But isn't the "why now" part all any of them really have to address when they get out at this point? We all know one of them will emerge as the delegate winner, and we also know how he did on Super Tuesday.

And Romney is the one candidate who could probably financially afford to stay in the race if he really wanted too. With Fred and Rudy, part of the problem beyond the early primaries was running out of cash.

I guess his speech didn't strike me as dweebish. I think from a GOP perspective it's a good answer. He doesn't think he's going to win it this time, and he wants the GOP to win the general. Getting out now does help McCain.

GeekyPenguin · #**173** 02-07-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile

Congratulations! Please keep posting about it - it's such an amazing process, and I can't possibly be the only one who will want to hear all about it!

Thank you! I'm really excited for it but I need to do so much research first. I'm planning on introducing some resolutions too!

SWTXBelle · #**174** 02-07-2008, 08:21 PM

Am I the only one thinking Romney may have been offered a v-p place for withdrawing now?

skylark · #**175** 02-07-2008, 09:41 PM

I'm doubting the Romney as VP thing because a lot of right-wing-evangelicals aren't too jazzed about McCain and (rightly or wrongly) I think that putting a mormon on the ticket will make them even lessed jazzed.

I think Huckabee is a more likely VP candidate... or at least someone who doesn't irritate evangelicals so much.

SWTXBelle · #**176** 02-07-2008, 10:06 PM

I wouldn't have thought so yesterday - but it's just odd. Yesterday the news was all about Romney's strategy - and today he pulls out. Maybe he did have a change of heart, and I'm just too cynical.

jon1856 · #**177** 02-07-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW

You know and I know he intends to run for office again. Better to quit now and make the GOP happy so they'll support him in a few years.

A link on realclearpolitics ended up with this:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8386.html
Romney ends bid, eyeing 2012

jon1856 · #**178** 02-07-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Really, guys? You think Obama and Clinton are as committed to the war on terror, including the war in Iraq, as McCain is?

I don't think they're pro-terror or at least see themselves in that sense, but I think there's a huge difference in their attitudes about military action and policy and that of McCain.

I'm not trying to get into which is actually the correct attitude to hold, but if you believe that McCain is correct about Iraq as I think Romney does, there is a big reason to think his victory in the general, over two candidates who basically said they'd pull out of Iraq quickly, is important.

And just who was it who said that we will be in Iraq for 100 years???

War on terror was NOT, as most people understand now, in Iraq.
Now it is.

nittanyalum · #**179** 02-08-2008, 12:39 AM

Oh, god, Huckabee's on Colbert Report, trying to be funny and glib about how McCain shouldn't be assumed the party nominee. I love how this guy keeps trying to come off as "normal". He has a sense of humor, I'll give him that. But his views are way outside the "normal" mainstream, IMO.

ETA: they're playing air hockey with a cut-out puck that looks like Texas... what a guy's guy

PeppyGPhiB · #**180** 02-08-2008, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Oh, god, Huckabee's on Colbert Report, trying to be funny and glib about how McCain shouldn't be assumed the party nominee. I love how this guy keeps trying to come off as "normal". He has a sense of humor, I'll give him that. But his views are way outside the "normal" mainstream, IMO.

ETA: they're playing air hockey with a cut-out puck that looks like Texas... what a guy's guy

This is what I used to think about Bush. "Oh, don't worry, the American people won't elect him just because he makes jokes and likes to chainsaw things on his "ranch" in Texas." But I was WRONG.

I worry big time about Huckabee being given the VP running mate job with McCain, in part because of McCain's age. By the time he takes office he would be 72; isn't the avg lifespan of an American male 76? Even if he lived out his first term, he would be a one-term President...leaving Huckabee or Romney to bombard us with campaigning again in 3-4 years.