Dirty Rushing and Consequences

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by Denise_DPhiE

All of the posts in this thread just emphasize the giant BIATCH attitude of some groups/campuses. Glad I do not deal with collegians b/c this stuff is ugly!

I'm with you, D. I've never even heard of these types of things going on. It's not that I don't believe that they do, it's just so different from how things were on my campus. Everyone got along just fine. I guess I should consider myself lucky in that regard.

I think someone said it's against the greenbook rules, but I think just taking away the chapter's right to continue with Recruitment that semester and entirely denying them a pledge class would do the trick. I mean if you can't "play fair" then you shouldn't be allowed to "play" at all. Obviously that wouldn't fly though, so it's not helpful. Sorry.

[twinkle555]

Recently, there was a rumor going around here about one of the houses losing their social priviledges (sp?) for next semester b/c during recruitment they gave a PNM a piece of jewelry ($$$) and a bid promise. I was shocked, but then again I have heard that this house has a budget for infractions b/c they get them so much. Who knows..

p.s- the girl that was promised a bid, went to a different house.

[DGTess]

Originally Posted by twinkle555

Recently, there was a rumor going around here about one of the houses losing their social priviledges (sp?) for next semester b/c during recruitment they gave a PNM a piece of jewelry ($$$) and a bid promise. I was shocked, but then again I have heard that this house has a budget for infractions b/c they get them so much. Who knows..

p.s- the girl that was promised a bid, went to a different house.

Don't we teach our sisters - in every house - not to spread RUMORS?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

I think someone said it's against the greenbook rules, but I think just taking away the chapter's right to continue with Recruitment that semester and entirely denying them a pledge class would do the trick.

It's not just the Green Book, it's a freedom of association issue.

They can be denied the right to participate in formal recruitment (as it's a Panhellenically run event) but they are still allowed to recruit members in other ways - COB, etc. Something like this can actually backfire, because it would allow the "penalized" group to hold whatever kind of parties they want, without rules on frills and time limits and such.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Something like this can actually backfire, because it would allow the "penalized" group to hold whatever kind of parties they want, without rules on frills and time limits and such.

Yeah - the only way that it's an actual penalty is if they are close to or above total, and taking quota would have allowed them to take more than total. Or if it's just a campus that's entirely unfriendly for COB.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by 33girl

It's not just the Green Book, it's a freedom of association issue.

They can be denied the right to participate in formal recruitment (as it's a Panhellenically run event) but they are still allowed to recruit members in other ways - COB, etc. Something like this can actually backfire, because it would allow the "penalized" group to hold whatever kind of parties they want, without rules on frills and time limits and such.

How would it allow a chapter to hold whatever kind of parties they want? I'm not trying to be argumentative. I honestly just don't get it. Aren't there rules for COB that would still apply?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

How would it allow a chapter to hold whatever kind of parties they want? I'm not trying to be argumentative. I honestly just don't get it. Aren't there rules for COB that would still apply?

The rules about how much money you can spend, how many balloons, what you can wear, etc etc are for formal rush only. They aren't set by the individual groups, they're set by Panhellenic.

If a sorority does nothing but COB, they can have whatever kind of parties they want, spend as much as they want, etc - there are no rules when it comes to COB.

Think of participating in formal rush as being a store in a mall - you have certain signage requirements, hours you go by, etc etc. When you move out of the mall, if you want to have a 10 foot sign and stay open 24/7, you can.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by 33girl

If a sorority does nothing but COB, they can have whatever kind of parties they want, spend as much as they want, etc - there are no rules when it comes to COB.

Think of participating in formal rush as being a store in a mall - you have certain signage requirements, hours you go by, etc etc. When you move out of the mall, if you want to have a 10 foot sign and stay open 24/7, you can.

Thank you for explaining that. I had no idea. It makes perfect sense now.