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Old 09-07-2007, 10:08 PM
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Im gonna DA

After a long and hard thought and after reviewing all the comments, I believe it would be best for me to DA. Yes, I could stay and be a catalyst for change, but that is not something that is very likely as there are more chapters, and we would have to convince all the chapters to change. It's just not something I have the time for. leaving the GLO is probably one of the hardest decisions I have ever made, however, I believe it is the right one. Not having time to pursue my scholastic career and try to change this fraternity, I cannot just stay either, watching what I believe to be an injustice go by just to enjoy the benefits of being in the fraternity.

Besides, the bonds I've made with my pledge bros are true. Hazing and the Rituals taught me that at least. I've told them about my decision, and they said they'll stand by me no matter what I do.

Its going to be hard breaking it to the brothers though.

I think i'll go professional. Thanks for all your help.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:13 PM
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Besides, the bonds I've made with my pledge bros are true. Hazing and the Rituals taught me that at least. I've told them about my decision, and they said they'll stand by me no matter what I do.


Yeah, you keep thinking that. I have NEVER met someone who dropped who was really still friends with the people who made it. In the back of their minds or in their hearts or wherever they keep it, they will always view you as the one who quit.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:44 PM
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true that, Senusret, true that.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:49 PM
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Yeah, you keep thinking that. I have NEVER met someone who dropped who was really still friends with the people who made it. In the back of their minds or in their hearts or wherever they keep it, they will always view you as the one who quit.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:49 PM
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Yeah, you keep thinking that. I have NEVER met someone who dropped who was really still friends with the people who made it. In the back of their minds or in their hearts or wherever they keep it, they will always view you as the one who quit.
The experiences we shared during pledging were real. No one can take that away from us. I had there backs so many times. Sometimes i [literally] carried them on my back

If they don't actually have back after all those times I've had theirs then I guess, I wouldn't really want to make friends with them anyways. True brotherhood is about supporting each other no matter the outcome of the situation.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:53 PM
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True brothers don't quit.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:10 PM
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I can see this issue two ways:

One, I have always wondered why people who were injured during hazing didn't walk away from the situation before it got that bad. So I have a level of admiration for a person being ready to do that.

On the other hand, I don't believe things will stay the same with your pledge brothers if you quit. Even if they don't specifically view you as weaker for not making it through, you will be the guy who stood outside or above the values of the immediate group, and most people aren't going to be so comfortable with that once they are full members. The bond you share will be replaced by the bond the have with each other, I'm afraid.

I suppose in a perfect world, I'd like to see you and your pledge brother together go to the older brothers and discuss your concerns with them. I don't know how realistic it is, but it sure seems better than dropping out or accepting the hazing.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:14 PM
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I suppose in a perfect world, I'd like to see you and your pledge brother together go to the older brothers and discuss your concerns with them. I don't know how realistic it is, but it sure seems better than dropping out or accepting the hazing.

Having a unified front and saying ENOUGH as a pledge class/line is always an option.

"Realistic" comes into play when pledges are too afraid of the assumed and perceived consequences of standing up to the members of the chapter.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:18 PM
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Having a unified front and saying ENOUGH as a pledge class/line is always an option.

"Realistic" comes into play when pledges are too afraid of the assumed and perceived consequences of standing up to the members of the chapter.
Assumed and perceived indeed. I think it takes more balls to stand up to someone than to quit because of something you thought might happen.

I think there might be more going on here than we think.
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