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08-20-2007, 02:10 PM
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Here's a question I have about writing recs, PNMs, and chapters at UGA: Are there some sororities that tend to accept PNMs MAINLY from one particular area of Atlanta and/or private school sector, etc? I say mainly to acknowledge the few others they may accept; but I keep hearing over and over that certain groups will reject great PNMs from other places in the state (or states) in favor of great PNMs from a particular area/burb/school. Membership/bids-accepted lists seem to validate this. Comments?
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08-20-2007, 02:47 PM
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Back door way around system
There is another way around the situation for your daughter. I am not condoning this in any way but I saw this happen many times in my chapter and other sororities at my school. Girls from UGA who were not able to get in the chapter they wanted transferred mid-year to my school where they tried to pick up a bid through COB and then if successful, they pledged, initiated, then transfered back to UGA the next year and petitioned for affiliation with that chapter.
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08-20-2007, 03:06 PM
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There is another way around the situation for your daughter. I am not condoning this in any way but I saw this happen many times in my chapter and other sororities at my school. Girls from UGA who were not able to get in the chapter they wanted transferred mid-year to my school where they tried to pick up a bid through COB and then if successful, they pledged, initiated, then transfered back to UGA the next year and petitioned for affiliation with that chapter.
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This has been discussed on GC. It doesn't always work - i.e. the UGA chapter may vote to NOT let the girl become an active member - and sometimes even if it does the girl has to wait a year or so to affiliate.
Not to mention having to transfer from the school where you want to be (UGA) to a school where you don't want to be, and possibly losing credits in the process. I don't think a sorority is really worth all that.
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08-20-2007, 03:09 PM
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This has been discussed on GC. It doesn't always work - i.e. the UGA chapter may vote to NOT let the girl become an active member - and sometimes even if it does the girl has to wait a year or so to affiliate.
Not to mention having to transfer from the school where you want to be (UGA) to a school where you don't want to be, and possibly losing credits in the process. I don't think a sorority is really worth all that.
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Ditto!
I know it's been done, but I certainly would never recommend it as a sane option!
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08-20-2007, 03:37 PM
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I know it's been done, but I certainly would never recommend it as a sane option!
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I agree.
While it's been done, I don't think it should even be thrown out there as an option. The risks definitely outweigh the benefits here.
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08-20-2007, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by WestGAChiO
There is another way around the situation for your daughter. I am not condoning this in any way but I saw this happen many times in my chapter and other sororities at my school. Girls from UGA who were not able to get in the chapter they wanted transferred mid-year to my school where they tried to pick up a bid through COB and then if successful, they pledged, initiated, then transfered back to UGA the next year and petitioned for affiliation with that chapter.
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This really doesn't work very well anymore, from what I have heard. I don't know how common this used to be, but now the "name" houses are already at or over total, so they don't have room to take these girls either.
And they are pretty wise to this ploy, too.
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08-21-2007, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WestGAChiO
There is another way around the situation for your daughter. I am not condoning this in any way but I saw this happen many times in my chapter and other sororities at my school. Girls from UGA who were not able to get in the chapter they wanted transferred mid-year to my school where they tried to pick up a bid through COB and then if successful, they pledged, initiated, then transfered back to UGA the next year and petitioned for affiliation with that chapter.
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I've heard stories about this sort of thing happening too. I've heard of girls deciding which sorority they want to belong to at the big ultra-competitive University. They research small schools and pick one with a weak Chapter of that sorority. Presumably it's easy to pledge there. They don't want to run the risk of getting cut or "stuck" with a bid to another sorority on their intended campus. So after initiating, they transfer at the end of that first semester.
Problem is they didn't count on not being welcomed with open arms as a sister. They're shocked to discover that the Chapter wasn't obligated to let them affiliate. So they wind up being a 2nd semester Freshman on alum status. Not quite what they had in mind for their college years.
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08-22-2007, 11:18 AM
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Problem is they didn't count on not being welcomed with open arms as a sister. They're shocked to discover that the Chapter wasn't obligated to let them affiliate. So they wind up being a 2nd semester Freshman on alum status. Not quite what they had in mind for their college years.
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See I was wondering about this. I know alot of the larger chapters at schools like UGA, Ole Miss, and LSU probably have quite a few women trying to transfer in, and I know that affiliating with a new chapter isn't always an automatic thing.
There is a girl I know from one of my classes in undergrad who joined XYZ at another school in our conference, and transfered to my school her soph. year because the XYZ chapter here is bigger and in her words, "cooler" than the one where she pledged.
She met the KSU XYZ's for a few weeks and they were the polar opposite of this girl. They also had a few other girls attempting to transfer into their chapter during avery busy spring semester.Long story short, they ended up not asking her to affiliate.
So her plan backfired and she's an alumna of her sorority as a soph. in college who wishes she'd stayed at her old school. Girls need to really stop and think before doing this because it isn't a sure thing. And nobody wants to be an alumna as a freshman or sophomore.
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08-20-2007, 02:48 PM
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I am prefacing this post by saying I am not trying to be snarky or get under anyone's skin. I understand that there are some upset people on here - both PNMs and parents and that I do not come from an ultra competive recruitment background like Bama or UGA.
Most of the venting and hurt seems to be coming from the alums, and the moms that have written the recs and did alot of the leg work. But how much of the responsibility comes down to the PNM to reach out (even if you are out of state) and introduce herself to the chapter. Especially in an ultra competitive recruitment. With things like Facebook, a few little exchanges between a potential PNM (obvi. before silence or no-contact rules go into effect) and an active could go along way -- at least get a name remembered, the actives talking about this really cool pnm that annieactive talked to and she is a 5x chapter legacy.
I also have been seeing a lot of posts about how angry alums are at the specific chapter for releasing their girls. But maybe the chapter had good reasons (not that your girls aren't wondeful -- i'm not insinuating that), but maybe the pnms weren't talkative (we've seen lots of stories about the mute pnm) or were braggarts (we've seen lots of stories about the bragging pnm) that may have rubbed the actives the wrong way, or maybe the pnm just got talking to 1 or 2 actives that weren't very good at rushing and didn't introduce your girl to enough people, etc. Bottom line is that you don't know what went on during those parties, you don't know how your girl did through the eyes of the actives, and you don't know what went on during ms, and you will probably never know.
And as my sister goes off to college this weekend (recruitment is deffered where she is going) I think how upset she would be if she didn't get a bid, and how mortified she would be if her rec writers continually bashed the system.
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08-20-2007, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BBelleADPi
Here's a question I have about writing recs, PNMs, and chapters at UGA: Are there some sororities that tend to accept PNMs MAINLY from one particular area of Atlanta and/or private school sector, etc? I say mainly to acknowledge the few others they may accept; but I keep hearing over and over that certain groups will reject great PNMs from other places in the state (or states) in favor of great PNMs from a particular area/burb/school. Membership/bids-accepted lists seem to validate this. Comments?
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There are definitely groups known for being out-of-state-friendly and groups known for being Georgia-only or certain-parts-of-Georgia-only. Not having been present for MS for the latter two, I can't verify whether this is true or if it's merely coincidence.
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