2007 UGA Recruitment

[melongirl]

Originally Posted by jwright25

I think this is a point worth emphasizing. I haven't read all of the stories from AU and UGA, so I don't know if there is a rash of GC PNMs who are getting their second or third choices. If so, they are definitely in the minority. By far.

Here's the UGA stats

Number Of Recruits Receiving :
Preference No.
No Pref 10
1 choice 822
2 choice 93
3 choice 15





And before you ask-- i don't know what "no pref" means. Maybe they dropped out going into pref round??

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by melongirl

Here's the UGA stats

Number Of Recruits Receiving :
Preference No.
No Pref 10
1 choice 822
2 choice 93
3 choice 15





And before you ask-- i don't know what "no pref" means. Maybe they dropped out going into pref round??

I think the no pref might be the number of girls who maximized but didn't get placed as QAs.

ETA: Or I guess it could reflect snaps to girls who didn't attend prefs, since it's the list of girls matching. They matched to no one they preffed.

[cluelessUGAmom]

Originally Posted by melongirl

Here's the UGA stats

Number Of Recruits Receiving :
Preference No.
No Pref 10
1 choice 822
2 choice 93
3 choice 15





And before you ask-- i don't know what "no pref" means. Maybe they dropped out going into pref round??

Just wondering....how accurate are these results?

[melongirl]

Originally Posted by cluelessUGAmom

Just wondering....how accurate are these results?

they came straight from a report from UGA greek life, from their ICS system

I've also sent you a PM

[estherjb]

I actually talked to the recruitment advisor at our national office and she was very aware of many of the things we've discussed on this thread. She helped me understand some things about rush that were new to me. Evidently on some campuses where the "good" sororities were getting bigger and the weaker sororities were getting smaller there has been an Early Release policy instituted. As I understand it, houses who do not think there is a likelihood that a rushee will receive a bid are encouraged to release them after first round so that they will go back to other houses where they are more likely to get a bid. The idea benefits the rushee (theoretically) because she doesn't keep strong houses who aren't going to invite her back later at the expense of less popular or less known sororities who would keep her all the way through. Prefs are also weighted to allow smaller chapters to have more girls at their parties than houses who have filled quota repeatedly. This wouldn't lessen the sting of a legacy being cut after first round but the first round cut isn't the slap in the face it would have been before early release was introduced.
But a quota of 56 at a school like Georgia? Bama had quota in the 70's. Maybe the early release policy is causing more girls to drop out and by the time quota is figured the numbers are smaller.

[Speechpath]

This is true at many schools now using release figures, chapters are forced to cut more and sooner. Thus quality women may get released after first round more so than in years past. Sometimes as well, girls are nervous in first rounds (actives and pnm's) and legacies may be more nervous in their legacy house which may result in less than favorable conversation or perceived shyness.

[UGAalum94]

I suppose it's possible that a few girls might have made a stronger impression after two rounds than after one, but I honestly think that at UGA, the girls still used to drop out of rush; it was just all at once right before prefs when everyone pretty much got released by all the groups who didn't them on the bid list-- right at the same time. They saw where they were preffing and quit. (And this ended up hurting smaller groups because quota was set based of pref. invites, if I remember correctly, so it basically meant there weren't even enough girls left in the process for all the groups to make quota.)

I think there's a tendency for PNMs and parents to imagine that if a girl went back to more parties with a group, she would get a chance to shine and the groups would give her a bid.

But I don't really think that's how it ever happened at UGA.

Even before release figures, I think probably the top third of groups by what we'd call return rate today had 80-90% of their bid lists in mind based on girls they already knew from their hometowns. The middle third took about 50% girls they knew of before and 50% good candidates who they first met at recruitment. And the bottom third by return rate, might have gotten 25% girls they knew before recruitment and then had 75% of their pledge class from good candidates during rush.

My point is that even with three rounds to make an impression, I don't think that a girls real chance of pledging was ever really that much better than it is today.

[WVU alpha phi]

Originally Posted by Speechpath

This is true at many schools now using release figures, chapters are forced to cut more and sooner. Thus quality women may get released after first round more so than in years past. Sometimes as well, girls are nervous in first rounds (actives and pnm's) and legacies may be more nervous in their legacy house which may result in less than favorable conversation or perceived shyness.

This new release policy was instituted at WVU 2 years ago. The sororities who have the highest return rates have to drop the most girls the first day. My chapter rushed #1 2 years ago, so last fall rush we had to drop over 1/3 of the girls rushing after the first round. Like estherjb said, this is to encourage PNMs going back to other "smaller" houses. In my opinion, I like the policy. Chapters who cut heavily still made quota, as well as some houses that typically don't.

[cluelessUGAmom]

I'm posting a link to the Red&Black for a sad article of attempted suicide. The reason I'm putting it here is because of a comment made by a former UGA police officer. Someone else made a post to the police officer, but perhaps the campus Panhellenic could "advise" the UGA police on using better discretion since Greek Life is supported by the University. It also seems that the Red&Black does not "support" Greek Life based on previous articles that I've read online.

http://www.redandblack.com/home/inde...3-fec525c136d4

Also If you have not seen the articles of recent crime in Athens or if your student has not read their emails from UGA police yesterday and today, please encourage them to read them and to be extra cautious around campus at all times. It never hurts for us to remind them!

[anxious uga mom]

I am fairly sure that I know who this article is talking about. If it is the girl I am speaking of, she did not go thru rush at all.

Originally Posted by cluelessUGAmom

I'm posting a link to the Red&Black for a sad article of attempted suicide. The reason I'm putting it here is because of a comment made by a former UGA police officer. Someone else made a post to the police officer, but perhaps the campus Panhellenic could "advise" the UGA police on using better discretion since Greek Life is supported by the University. It also seems that the Red&Black does not "support" Greek Life based on previous articles that I've read online.

http://www.redandblack.com/home/inde...3-fec525c136d4

Also If you have not seen the articles of recent crime in Athens or if your student has not read their emails from UGA police yesterday and today, please encourage them to read them and to be extra cautious around campus at all times. It never hurts for us to remind them!

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by estherjb

But a quota of 56 at a school like Georgia? Bama had quota in the 70's. Maybe the early release policy is causing more girls to drop out and by the time quota is figured the numbers are smaller.

Alabama has fewer sororities than Georgia participating in rush. That's why quota is higher.
I think the early release method has proved it is helping smaller groups. More are pledging quota or very close to it.