Hi, my name is Joseph... and I have a problem.

[JosephWang]

Originally Posted by James

You seem more like a "nice" guy than a pig. A pig wouldn't have gotten played like that, or taken it so personally if they did.

I don't know if you are legit or not, but my general suggestion would be stop trying for a while, join a gym, get buff, take some dance classes, maybe buy some new clothes, and get a more aggressive attitude.

Damn man, if there is a girl out there that wants a whiny guy with no self confidence . . well who would want her?

ETA: Don't forget to wash behind your ears.

I think the hard truth of the matter is... that I don't really like women. I'm attracted to them, but I tend not to like them. It's like, why should I 'try to get buff' or 'act aggressive.' I'm not a jock, I don't want to be something I'm not, why should I change?

I like old women, they're easy to talk to, no bullshit likeable people.

Young girls are all catty, and when you get to be older and you're pawing around trying to find someone decent, you can't, so you just end up with hook ups, like my friend Kelly I mentioned. I can't believe I fell in love with that ho.

A lot of other girls just seem to have these unrealistic expectations. Have you seen their postings on Craigslist, etc? They list like a 1000 things they want in a potential mate. And I'm not suppossed to feel inadequate?

American Women are worthless. And from what I can tell from my friend's marriage, they make terrible wives. I'm going to marry a nice, submissive Asian girl.

I hope you don't think I'm too out there, I just wanted to have an HONEST discussion about how I REALLY feel. I want you to all come back from this thread with the feeling that you interacted with someone online who wasn't pulling any punches or editing himself.

Thanks for listening.

[James]

Find one you like. Like men, women come in different flavors, sometimes you just have to gag enough times to find one you enjoy.

As far as who you are . . . your personality is just an interface you developed as a child to interact what with the people around you. Its malleable.

I am not saying to act aggressive. I am saying to be aggressive.

We function in a social world, you need to adjust yourself to achieve the type of attention you want from others.

To act in a way that denies you that attention, and then complain you are not getting what you want is insane. And to assume the world is going to change to conform to your inadequacies is just stupid.

Originally Posted by JosephWang

I think the hard truth of the matter is... that I don't really like women. I'm attracted to them, but I tend not to like them. It's like, why should I 'try to get buff' or 'act aggressive.' I'm not a jock, I don't want to be something I'm not, why should I change?

I like old women, they're easy to talk to, no bullshit likeable people.

Young girls are all catty, and when you get to be older and you're pawing around trying to find someone decent, you can't, so you just end up with hook ups, like my friend Kelly I mentioned. I can't believe I fell in love with that ho.

A lot of other girls just seem to have these unrealistic expectations. Have you seen their postings on Craigslist, etc? They list like a 1000 things they want in a potential mate. And I'm not suppossed to feel inadequate?

American Women are worthless. And from what I can tell from my friend's marriage, they make terrible wives. I'm going to marry a nice, submissive Asian girl.

I hope you don't think I'm too out there, I just wanted to have an HONEST discussion about how I REALLY feel. I want you to all come back from this thread with the feeling that you interacted with someone online who wasn't pulling any punches or editing himself.

Thanks for listening.

[JosephWang]

Originally Posted by James

Find one you like. Like men, women come in different flavors, sometimes you just have to gag enough times to find one you enjoy.

As far as who you are . . . your personality is just an interface you developed as a child to interact what with the people around you. Its malleable.

I am not saying to act aggressive. I am saying to be aggressive.

We function in a social world, you need to adjust yourself to achieve the type of attention you want from others.

To act in a way that denies you that attention, and then complain you are not getting what you want is insane. And to assume the world is going to change to conform to your inadequacies is just stupid.

Here's the problem: you might say that your personality is merely an interface, but I have always thought that my personality is born of behavior that people will accept from me, given my physical appearance and nonverbal cues.

For example, if a guy is not particularly good looking or physically imposing, no women or guys are going to accept him if he goes around acting like he's someone great like Bronson Pinchot. They'll cut him right off.

So you sort of adapt the persona that is acceptable to other people around you. It's a reward/punishment process.

And if you still persist in acting out of your "role" given to you by society, then you'll get mired down in a rut... like a motorcycle stuck in the mud.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by JosephWang

American Women are worthless. And from what I can tell from my friend's marriage, they make terrible wives. I'm going to marry a nice, submissive Asian girl

Sirikwan?

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by JosephWang

I think the hard truth of the matter is... that I don't really like women. I'm attracted to them, but I tend not to like them.

I like old women, they're easy to talk to, no bullshit likeable people.

I can't believe I fell in love with that ho.

Hahahahahahahahaha

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by JosephWang

American Women are worthless. And from what I can tell from my friend's marriage, they make terrible wives. I'm going to marry a nice, submissive Asian girl.

Wow. Stereotype much? Surely your logic skills aren't so faulty that you'd actually believe that all American wives are substandard to their Asian counterparts?

So your ONE DATE with Kelly was a bust. Can you really say you fell in love with her? That's an awfully strong feeling (love) for someone who doesn't even like women. Obviously, Kelly didn't feel the same way about you. (Or, who knows, maybe she did five years ago, but it's taken you so long to muster up the courage to ask her out that she just couldn't see it happening.)

I agree that you should seek some professional help. It sounds like you've had your heart broken (maybe several times), and you're not sure how to mend it. While I'd be willing to bet everyone here has experience with being let-down in love, you're bound to find more helpful advice from someone who has counseled others in your situation.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

Wow. Stereotype much? Surely your logic skills aren't so faulty that you'd actually believe that all American wives are substandard to their Asian counterparts?

So your ONE DATE with Kelly was a bust. Can you really say you fell in love with her? That's an awfully strong feeling (love) for someone who doesn't even like women. Obviously, Kelly didn't feel the same way about you. (Or, who knows, maybe she did five years ago, but it's taken you so long to muster up the courage to ask her out that she just couldn't see it happening.)

I agree that you should seek some professional help. It sounds like you've had your heart broken (maybe several times), and you're not sure how to mend it. While I'd be willing to bet everyone here has experience with being let-down in love, you're bound to find more helpful advice from someone who has counseled others in your situation.

I bet money that it's Kelly writing these posts

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I bet money that it's Kelly writing these posts

I disagree. I really think Joe's writing it. In fact... this guy sounds remarkable like a guy I went to grad school with.... whose name, of course, was Joe!

[icelandelf]

Originally Posted by JosephWang

I guess I'm just very depressed. What can I do to feel better? And is there anyone in Washington DC that wants to hook up tonight?

Singing off,

Joe Wang
8792372632

Hmmm sure looks like a phone number to me.

Originally Posted by JosephWang

Well I can see you're shunning me, but I just wanted to go back to an old support group from back in my youth. I'm an old Sigma Nu.
I don't have anything to hide... and I just wanted to 'chat' so why shouldn't I 'chat' on a site that is called 'Greekchat.'

Warning bell going off here

Originally Posted by JosephWang

THat's not my phone number. Back in Sigma Nu we were assigned numbers. Maybe things are much different.

According to Wrecking Crew above, that isn't a Sigma Nu number.

Originally Posted by JosephWang

And the fact that I said I wanted to hook up with someone in the area, you think that's wierd? Maybe this will shock you, but there's just a little bit of casual sex going on in fraternities and sororities, and that's putting it mildly. The prudishness is somewhat amusing. You think that urges like that stop when you get out of college? Heck, you probably think 27 years old is over the hill.

This smacks way too loudly of the occipitofrontal thread saying we were too out there , talked about sex, being a "lush" and enjoyed Nascar too much. The age mention again is curious.

Originally Posted by JosephWang

It's kind of tough being in your thirties and looking for a mate that isn't all used up or an alcoholic or something. Savor your 20s!

I have nothing...

Originally Posted by JosephWang

You'll meet oh so sensitive guys in your women's studies classes that pretend not to be misogynists, but deep down they're all pigs just like me. Which is not something bad.... it just is, you know? It's in our nature.

Not all men are misogynists. But I suspect you might be showing tendencies of one.

Originally Posted by JosephWang

I think the hard truth of the matter is... that I don't really like women.

American Women are worthless. And from what I can tell from my friend's marriage, they make terrible wives. I'm going to marry a nice, submissive Asian girl.

I hope you don't think I'm too out there, I just wanted to have an HONEST discussion about how I REALLY feel. I want you to all come back from this thread with the feeling that you interacted with someone online who wasn't pulling any punches or editing himself.

Thanks for listening.

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

Sirikwan?

Yep, I think it's Sirikwan.

Originally Posted by JosephWang

Believe it or not, I like the anonymity of posting on the internet. I have included a bit of personal information, but not so much as you could identify me in any way.

What I expect to get from posting: what anyone expect to get from posting... maybe a good discussion where we learn from each other.

Yet you post that you were a former Sigma Nu, post what looks like a phone number and slam every good piece of advice you've gotten. Are you done using us yet?

[JosephWang]

Wow, for so many oppossed to the thread itself, there's no shortage of people chiming in to make fun of me. Whatever, it's all good, I'm just happy that I'm honest above all.

I don't need to post here, anymore... while there are some good posters, most are just here to pile on. Could've been a long productive conversation, because once everyone just loosens up about their own prejudices, you really learn something interesting.

And to the guy that pm'ed me, no, no numbers, thanks. I did buy a damn brick though. I hope it's preserved well.

Over and out.

[SydneyK]

Yeah, when two people both think it's Sirikwan and "Joe's" only reply is, "Over and out," well... I think we have a winner (or, in this case, two). Good sleuthing, kathykd and icelandelf!

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by JosephWang

And to the guy that pm'ed me, no, no numbers, thanks. I did buy a damn brick though. I hope it's preserved well.

Fine. I am calling BS on your claim to be a Sigma Nu then.

Feel free to create another account where you do not claim to be something that you're not.