True Brother Initiative

[GammaZeta]

Sounds good. I will naturally be skeptical at first. There just have been to many "new" programs in the last couple decades. Thank GOD we are getting away from risk management, glad to hear that this is replacing it at least. That makes me a little more hopeful.

Warren A. Cole Recruitment Institute??????????

Oh my God. That is about as appropriate as having O.J. Simpson sell knives on late night infocommercials. Just a suggestion, but given Cole's recruitment history, and the fact that during his initial recruitment he was, let's just say less than honest, do you think his name should be highlighting the program?

By workbook do you mean a quick reference book of helpful suggestions, etc., or do you mean an actual book where you fill in the blanks, etc.?

[Ottor 246]

Originally Posted by GammaZeta

Warren A. Cole Recruitment Institute??????????

Oh my God. That is about as appropriate as having O.J. Simpson sell knives on late night infocommercials. Just a suggestion, but given Cole's recruitment history, and the fact that during his initial recruitment he was, let's just say less than honest, do you think his name should be highlighting the program?

Point taken. I wonder if they thought of that?

By workbook do you mean a quick reference book of helpful suggestions, etc., or do you mean an actual book where you fill in the blanks, etc.?

Not sure. I got copies of all the manuals, etc., but I haven't had time to read all of them yet. I do know that it will be in addition to the Paedagogus, and that the Paed. will eventually be re-designed and shortened to go along with TBI.

[Tom Earp]

From of the posts I have read, I wonder how wide speread this really is?

How soon do We as Alums and Members of the Zetas get the information?

I agree, how many are going to get preview and knowledge?

While it has peeked my interst, there are thoughts if it is another thought that may look good? But not fully acceptied

[GammaZeta]

Congenial, dogged persistence or portraying false numbers and fake information, same difference I guess.

Of course High Pi training gave you the politically correct version. They aren't going to tell you he was kicked out of the fraternity he started, or that one of the primary reasons he started a fraternity was for business and economic reasons.

I also believe Jack Mason's vision more accurately represents what Lambda Chi Alpha is today than Warren Cole's vision.

So I guess by using Cole's name on recruitment material, it is an endorsement by Lambda Chi Alpha to tell prospective members we have 44 brothers in a chapter when we only have 4?

[dever860]

Originally Posted by GammaZeta

Congenial, dogged persistence or portraying false numbers and fake information, same difference I guess.

Of course High Pi training gave you the politically correct version. They aren't going to tell you he was kicked out of the fraternity he started, or that one of the primary reasons he started a fraternity was for business and economic reasons.

I also believe Jack Mason's vision more accurately represents what Lambda Chi Alpha is today than Warren Cole's vision.

So I guess by using Cole's name on recruitment material, it is an endorsement by Lambda Chi Alpha to tell prospective members we have 44 brothers in a chapter when we only have 4?

He said he was sorry...

[JonoBN41]

Ottor, thanks for an excellent run down of the basics of the program. I want to be enthusiastic about it, but I still don't understand how it works in practice.

Boz said it's for everybody, but I have to see how it applies to those who have already graduated. Will it come to a point when there are "true" brothers, and the rest of us are just "regular" brothers?

I can see this working if one starts as an AM, but how do alumni participate, integrate, and support it? I'm still unclear on that. Or is the saying true - you can't teach an old dog new tricks?

[dever860]

Originally Posted by JonoBN41

Ottor, thanks for an excellent run down of the basics of the program. I want to be enthusiastic about it, but I still don't understand how it works in practice.

Boz said it's for everybody, but I have to see how it applies to those who have already graduated. Will it come to a point when there are "true" brothers, and the rest of us are just "regular" brothers?

I can see this working if one starts as an AM, but how do alumni participate, integrate, and support it? I'm still unclear on that. Or is the saying true - you can't teach an old dog new tricks?

I am waiting for the new C&C, hopefully there is more of a narrative. I keep checking fraternity manuals for the new manuals, no luck.

[GammaZeta]

Good point Jono. If we are supposed to recruit "true brothers" of the same values, etc., where does that leave the rest of us? Also, shouldn't the values of the fraternity be determined by membership and alumni, and not some guidelines set forth by an exclusive group of brothers? Will we be "false" brothers?

[JConleyWCU]

Originally Posted by GammaZeta

Sounds good. I will naturally be skeptical at first. There just have been to many "new" programs in the last couple decades. Thank GOD we are getting away from risk management, glad to hear that this is replacing it at least. That makes me a little more hopeful.

Warren A. Cole Recruitment Institute??????????

Oh my God. That is about as appropriate as having O.J. Simpson sell knives on late night infocommercials. Just a suggestion, but given Cole's recruitment history, and the fact that during his initial recruitment he was, let's just say less than honest, do you think his name should be highlighting the program?

By workbook do you mean a quick reference book of helpful suggestions, etc., or do you mean an actual book where you fill in the blanks, etc.?

Before we began our session on recruitment the High Pi training us gave us this explanation on why it is what it is. Warren A. Cole traveled the United States and where ever he went new Zeta's followed. Cole solicited around 117 colleges and universities throughout the Northeast United States to begin Lambda Chi Alpha. Cole was viewed as a congenial man, whose dogged persistence was, no doubt, the reason Lambda Chi succeeded. If it was not for Cole there wouldn't be a Lambda Chi.