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[357Nupe]

Flawed by whose standard? I agree roles are a part of life, some born into, some given, some by choice. My life, truly about choices. At the root of it all, I chose not to be married right now.

I can respect your choice.



Maybe I did and maybe I didn't, I still hurt their feelings.
Why are you guys getting so puffed up? 357Nupe, you're married so what difference does it make for you?[/quote]

Maybe your choices are just finding you the wrong man(boy) but from what I have read in this thread when the right MAN finds you, all your control, and 50/50 stuff will not matter you two will compliment each other to the point that the struggle for power will end and the one mindedness of love will set in and you will find yourself in the role you and your husband agree is best for the your family. (Damn I think I just said something deep but I could be wrong, nope my wife said that was a good one)
No one is getting puffed up, I thought we were having a disscusion, which involves a back and forth exchange of ideas. But if someone is getting puffed up, maybe this will prove to some women that men are not just looking for sex, but we also have a depth of emotions that women might want to tap into.

Also it makes a difference to me because what we are talking about is how relationships are affecting black people and weather married or single that is something that I will always chime in on.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

i have no problem with the "wife submissive to her husband" rule. ooh, see that? it said WIFE! that, my friend, is where the line is. i am generally submissive as a fiancee, but not to the level i will be after we say "i do"...

my problem with the "our women" slant a few of you mentioned, is that i hear it too often. it is the answer a lot of times to the "why are you dating outside your race?" question. i dont mind interracial dating at all, mind you, but think its unfair to black women when we are stereotyped in that way. after all the oppression we, as a people, went thru together, you would think you would want a strong black woman. there are so many of "our women" who are without men and raising children for various reasons. you should support that strength in us!

we, in turn, AS WOMEN need to learn that skill of letting you all do your thing. not specifically as black women. oh, and uh, dont tell me every man is MAN ENOUGH to lead a household...hmm?

You're right, there are some sorry jokers out there who don't/won't work, cheat, run the streets, hang out at clubs w/o their woman beside them, hang out at bars to get drunk and pick up hoish women. Yeah, that's a poor excuse for a man, and I wouldn't give a squirt of piss for a joker like that. And hell no, they won't lead. Men like that are content with the woman leading. In fact these men look for a sugar mama. They literally want to be taken care of. Lazy jokers.

As far as black women are concerned, according to Ebony, 70% of them are single. What I have a problem with is when black women get mad when they see a black man with a white woman. Hell, that's their business. I don't know what's up with that.