what do i have to give back?

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by 33girl

A lot of NPHC chapters don't have housing either. That makes a big difference in the way things are run.

My undergrad chapter had housing for a considerable period of our history on campus. We ran things regarding membership/recruitment the same when we didn't have the house as when we did. What exactly would be different, and why?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

My undergrad chapter had housing for a considerable period of our history on campus. We ran things regarding membership/recruitment the same when we didn't have the house as when we did. What exactly would be different, and why?

How big was your house, and how many (average) were in your chapter? More to the point - if this isn't divulging too much - how many women did you have wanting to join?

Unfortunately, sometimes NPC & NIC rush becomes about filling the house because the campus culture demands you have a house that holds 70 or however many people.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by 33girl

How big was your house, and how many (average) were in your chapter? More to the point - if this isn't divulging too much - how many women did you have wanting to join?

Unfortunately, sometimes NPC & NIC rush becomes about filling the house because the campus culture demands you have a house that holds 70 or however many people.

i hate that im monopolizing on this thread, but i really am interested!!

is it "campus culture" as in expectations (ie. correlation between reputation and how much you filled your house that year) or a need to fill the house because of some university sanctions (ie. if the house isn't full, you lose it?)

[1908Revelations]

Originally Posted by tld221

i hate that im monopolizing on this thread, but i really am interested!!

You are not monopolizing...I'm interested too.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by tld221

i hate that im monopolizing on this thread, but i really am interested!!

is it "campus culture" as in expectations (ie. correlation between reputation and how much you filled your house that year) or a need to fill the house because of some university sanctions (ie. if the house isn't full, you lose it?)

Yes and yes. I'm going to opt out at this point as our campus really didn't have those type houses and someone's who did can explain better.

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by tld221

i hate that im monopolizing on this thread, but i really am interested!!

is it "campus culture" as in expectations (ie. correlation between reputation and how much you filled your house that year) or a need to fill the house because of some university sanctions (ie. if the house isn't full, you lose it?)

I think that finance plays a large role when it comes to housing. I recently met some ASA alumnae from a different chapter who told me that because their chapter didn't have live in requirements for members, it made their dues really high because they had to cover the cost of the unused rooms.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by tld221

is it "campus culture" as in expectations (ie. correlation between reputation and how much you filled your house that year) or a need to fill the house because of some university sanctions (ie. if the house isn't full, you lose it?)

I'm currently a Chapter Advisor on a campus where the Greek housing is all university owned. Our chapter will not have a house next year, because we would have too many vacancies.

At that campus, chapters who have houses are fined $500 per vacancy. Even with a small number of vacancies, that adds up! (4 empty beds would result in a $2,000 fine!) So, it is definitely in the groups best interests to keep the house full!

BTW - many of the NPHC groups at that campus live in the University-owned Greek housing too.

[pinkyphimu]

Originally Posted by tld221

is it "campus culture" as in expectations (ie. correlation between reputation and how much you filled your house that year) or a need to fill the house because of some university sanctions (ie. if the house isn't full, you lose it?)

if the house is university owned, they may have specific sanctions. if the house isn't full, they may take it away and turn it in to another "special interest" type house. on my campus, they could put a non member in the house if there was an empty room. our chapter houses were much smaller compared to many schools where the chapters own their own homes. if i remember correctly, the most any of the sorority houses held was 20. my house only held 5.

if the house is owned by the organization, there are financial considerations that need to be made. if there are 150 beds and only 70 people live there for several years in a row, the chapter can only afford to take a loss for so long before they decide it is no longer fiancially viable.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by 33girl

How big was your house, and how many (average) were in your chapter? More to the point - if this isn't divulging too much - how many women did you have wanting to join?

Unfortunately, sometimes NPC & NIC rush becomes about filling the house because the campus culture demands you have a house that holds 70 or however many people.

What you're saying makes sense. I can't really tell you too much detailed information, however - before my time

Our chapter has had two houses on campus. Here is the public information about the second house, from the chapter website (which needs to be updated):

"XI ALPHA, Inc.

XI ALPHA, Inc. is a non-profit organization comprised of current and alumni members of the Xi Alpha Chapter of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. who came together in an unified effort to secure a facility, in the heart of Greek Row, on the campus of Georgia Tech. This effort began in the spring of 1998 when the ladies of Delta Sigma Theta were informed that they had two years to renovate their existing structure or secure another location. Over the next four years there were several fundraisers, phone campaigns, and heart-felt appeals to the community and alumni members. With the grace of God, on August 7, 2002, XI ALPHA, Inc. purchased a beautiful 10-bedroom house located at 162 Fourth Street. The legacy of the “Delta House” continues to serve the minority community on the campus of Georgia Tech by offering meeting facilities and a student library. XI ALPHA, Inc. will continue to promote the ideals of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. by promoting scholarship and public service through community service and financial scholarships. "

At that time, there were enough members to fill the house. Unfortunately, levels dropped temporarily so that we do not now have the house.

At GT, there are all different sizes and kinds of Greek houses - probably because Greek housing is not owned by the university. Orgs maintain private control over their own space. So that is probably different than at campuses where it is structured so that it is all campus-owned.