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Old 03-29-2007, 02:53 PM
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Okay, I'm curious. Can anyone with a legal background explain exactly what equitable estoppel is? I'm assuming it's something along the lines of it's unfair to hold people to standards you aren't willing to abide by yourself, but I know next to nothing about law.
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A type of estoppel that bars a person from adopting a position in court that contradicts his or her past statements or actions when that contradictory stance would be unfair to another person who relied on the original position. For example, if a landlord agrees to allow a tenant to pay the rent ten days late for six months, it would be unfair to allow the landlord to bring a court action in the fourth month to evict the tenant for being a week late with the rent. The landlord would be estopped from asserting his right to evict the tenant for late payment of rent. Also known as estoppel in pais.


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Does anybody know what exactly happens when a new Greek org comes on campus? I know how expansion works, but are there any documents signed by the group, the school, and/or the local PHC? I just wonder if there is anything there that could become part of the case.
I would guess it depends on the school and what services they - the school - might provide. Housing as an example. I'm sure there are other areas covered like risk management etc.
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:02 PM
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Thank you counselor. A few follow up questions if I may.

In your opinion, is this the type of case that might be tried before a jury? Or do you feel it will more likely be tried before a judge. Also, based on the merits as presented (real and perceived), what is your opinion on the case being outright dismissed?
Whether or not the case would be tried before a jury would depend generally on (1) whether either party requests a jury and (2) whether the case presents questions of fact (which a jury or a judge, if there is no jury, can consider) or only questions of law (which are for a judge to decide). Even if there are questions of fact, if nobody requests a jury, it will be a bench trial.

And with no more knowledge than I have, it would be baseless to speculate on likelihood of dismissal.

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equitable estoppel . . . .
Very good job! And I think Kevin is right -- I'm not seeing how it could be applicable here.
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:27 PM
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Very good job! And I think Kevin is right -- I'm not seeing how it could be applicable here.
I was trying to frame a legal theory for "What comes around goes around." We'd have to call it "equitable estoppal as to third parties."

It sounds like it should exist, but it doesn't.
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:37 PM
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Now I'm curious - given that DZ was established so long ago at DePauw, what the (legal) agreement between the two was, if any. Surely the University gave some sort of recognition to DZ, similiar to the way a GLO grants a charter. Anyone know of such a document - even if it is in the minutes of a meeting of some sort?
Did it address housing as an issue at any time since then? Spell out anything else?
Does anyone know what the current procedure is when a GLO is invited to come on a campus? Surely in this day and age there is some sort of agreement.
AND - how will this change?
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:59 AM
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I was trying to frame a legal theory for "What comes around goes around." We'd have to call it "equitable estoppal as to third parties."
"Karmic estoppel," maybe?
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:04 AM
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:30 AM
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"Karmic estoppel," maybe?
If only there was case law
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If only there was case law
Surely the Ninth Circuit can provide us with some.
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:50 AM
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Question: Could NPC HQ send them some sort of "cease and desist" letter?
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Now might be a good time to consider adding one. I'm not really sure how they'd word it though.
NPC does not have that authority & I wouldn't want them to have control over internal decisions made by member groups -- any more than I would want university administrators involved in such.
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