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Old 03-19-2007, 03:44 PM
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Are you saying you traded homeless people wine for food?
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:44 PM
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Are you saying you traded homeless people wine for food?

Yes, and just what is your problem?

I knew this person and what his situation was not some little trivial thing you want to make it out to be!
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:48 PM
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Yes, and just what is your problem?

I knew this person and what his situation was not some little trivial thing you want to make it out to be!
I'm going to tell you that I have an issue with you enabling someone. It would have been far better if you'd gotten him help. Particularly if he was self medicating a physical or psychological ailment.
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:58 PM
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I'm going to tell you that I have an issue with you enabling someone. It would have been far better if you'd gotten him help. Particularly if he was self medicating a physical or psychological ailment.
You have no clue about the situation and about the person so why do you want to put some input in about a person who you have no knowledge about?

There are people in need who need help and others who do not want help!

So, who are your to judge what they want to do?

I was in need and luckly got help when I got divorced and she took everything.

I worked my ass off all of my life, maybe you did or not,but until you have been there, climb off.

If you do not know then do not judge about what others think!

Kevin is saying, they ahve the opportunity to get help and do not and I would not give them money either!

If you wish to, then knock yourself out and quite bitching about us who get tired of it!

When you donate your self into the poor house, do not come and ask for alms oh poor person!
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:06 PM
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You have no clue about the situation and about the person so why do you want to put some input in about a person who you have no knowledge about?

There are people in need who need help and others who do not want help!

So, who are your to judge what they want to do?

I was in need and luckly got help when I got divorced and she took everything.

I worked my ass off all of my life, maybe you did or not,but until you have been there, climb off.

If you do not know then do not judge about what others think!

Kevin is saying, they ahve the opportunity to get help and do not and I would not give them money either!

If you wish to, then knock yourself out and quite bitching about us who get tired of it!

When you donate your self into the poor house, do not come and ask for alms oh poor person!
Uh huh, You won't give them money but you'll give them wine in exchange for the food they've been given? I really really doubt you can justify that. The rest of your post has zero bearing on that point.
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:12 PM
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Uh huh, You won't give them money but you'll give them wine in exchange for the food they've been given?
I don't think he was being unreasonable. If a person wants to get blitzed and forget about his worries, and he values that more than food, what's the big deal? Enabling an addict on the streets is not really a bad thing. If that's what the addict wants to do, who are you to judge?

At least this particular customer of Tom's wasn't being aggressive or asking for handouts. He was bartering for his wine. Sounds good to me.
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:43 PM
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I don't think he was being unreasonable. If a person wants to get blitzed and forget about his worries, and he values that more than food, what's the big deal? Enabling an addict on the streets is not really a bad thing. If that's what the addict wants to do, who are you to judge?
Holy crap, I agree with Kevin.

There was (maybe still is?) a homeless guy in Chicago whose tagline was "Help a drunk get drunker!" At least he was honest (I think -- there's no way of knowing what he did with the money) and he also was cool as hell.
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Old 03-21-2007, 12:04 AM
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I don't think he was being unreasonable. If a person wants to get blitzed and forget about his worries, and he values that more than food, what's the big deal? Enabling an addict on the streets is not really a bad thing. If that's what the addict wants to do, who are you to judge?
WOW. That is completely and totally wrong. That's an awful thing to say about feeding someone's addiction, it totally adds to the decline of society itself.




And yet, it doesn't make me the least bit mad. I completely and totally understand it, in fact, I even sort of agree with this statement. What's happening to me???? I've changed....
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