Vermont Judge Dismisses Hazing Charges (FIJI - "Brokeback" Case)

[BrendanMcGrail]

How so? It paints us all as hate-mongering homophobes. Is that the image you want attached to fraternity life?

[macallan25]

I could personally give a shit what a bunch of GDIs think of fraternity life. I know how it is......as does anyone that is worth a damn.

[dznat187]

"From what I gathered from the article they made them dress up like cowboys and called them fags. Sounds really traumatizing. That is not hazing."

How is that not hazing? Have you read the definition or the law recently....making new members dress up in anything and/or calling them names is clearly noted in the anti-hazing laws.

"I could personally give a shit what a bunch of GDIs think of fraternity life. I know how it is......as does anyone that is worth a damn."

yeah....and i think more than just the 'GDIs' think this is a problem. just ask your national office. I'd like to see if they share you opinion. although, you probably don't 'give a shit' what they think either.....

[macallan25]

No...actually I really don't care what Nationals thinks.......I really don't think I know of a chapter in the South that likes/appreciates/wants to have anything to do with their Nationals. Nationals is doing nothing but destroying their strong chapters by instilling their PC crap and effectively ruining 150+ years of history and tradition.

......so, using your hazing laws logic.....if we made our pledges dress in khakis with a tucked in Polo or button down with boots or loafers (basically made them look like gentlemen everyday)........should we get into trouble as well?

[BrendanMcGrail]

Yes. Unless your brothers are expected to the exact same thing.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by BrendanMcGrail

Yes. Unless your brothers are expected to the exact same thing.

hahahahahah....thats great. We should get in trouble for teaching pledges to act like gentlemen and how to present themselves well. Great logic. You are obviously very far away from any respectable Southern greek system. I bet you have memorized your active manual. Congrats on that.

.......on a side note, all of my brothers know how to dress and look respectable, we don't have to "expect" it out of one another. When you are a pledge, its part of the deal. I haven't yet had a pledge class where anyone was opposed to looking nice.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Mac, not everyone here thinks the southern way is the best way. People here dance around that, but I'm tired of it not being said. It works for y'all, but those of us in the west, north and mid-west often have very different ways of doing things, and we like it that way. If we wanted to do things the way the southern chapters do it, we would.