Vermont Judge Dismisses Hazing Charges (FIJI - "Brokeback" Case)

[BrendanMcGrail]

Somehow I don't think that biology is skewed by geography the way culture is. Now, if you were saying they were more likely to be out in Vermont, I'd agree. But that's neither here nor there.

If there turns out to be enough evidence to fine them, they should absolutely lose their charter - activity like tha hurts the entire greek community.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by BrendanMcGrail

Somehow I don't think that biology is skewed by geography the way culture is. Now, if you were saying they were more likely to be out in Vermont, I'd agree. But that's neither here nor there.

If there turns out to be enough evidence to fine them, they should absolutely lose their charter - activity like tha hurts the entire greek community.

Lose their charter because they made them dress like cowboys and called them some names? Good Lord.....that is ridiculous.

[BrendanMcGrail]

How so? It paints us all as hate-mongering homophobes. Is that the image you want attached to fraternity life?

[macallan25]

I could personally give a shit what a bunch of GDIs think of fraternity life. I know how it is......as does anyone that is worth a damn.

[dznat187]

"From what I gathered from the article they made them dress up like cowboys and called them fags. Sounds really traumatizing. That is not hazing."

How is that not hazing? Have you read the definition or the law recently....making new members dress up in anything and/or calling them names is clearly noted in the anti-hazing laws.

"I could personally give a shit what a bunch of GDIs think of fraternity life. I know how it is......as does anyone that is worth a damn."

yeah....and i think more than just the 'GDIs' think this is a problem. just ask your national office. I'd like to see if they share you opinion. although, you probably don't 'give a shit' what they think either.....

[macallan25]

No...actually I really don't care what Nationals thinks.......I really don't think I know of a chapter in the South that likes/appreciates/wants to have anything to do with their Nationals. Nationals is doing nothing but destroying their strong chapters by instilling their PC crap and effectively ruining 150+ years of history and tradition.

......so, using your hazing laws logic.....if we made our pledges dress in khakis with a tucked in Polo or button down with boots or loafers (basically made them look like gentlemen everyday)........should we get into trouble as well?

[BrendanMcGrail]

Yes. Unless your brothers are expected to the exact same thing.