Vermont Judge Dismisses Hazing Charges (FIJI - "Brokeback" Case)

[BrendanMcGrail]

Yes. Unless your brothers are expected to the exact same thing.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by BrendanMcGrail

Yes. Unless your brothers are expected to the exact same thing.

hahahahahah....thats great. We should get in trouble for teaching pledges to act like gentlemen and how to present themselves well. Great logic. You are obviously very far away from any respectable Southern greek system. I bet you have memorized your active manual. Congrats on that.

.......on a side note, all of my brothers know how to dress and look respectable, we don't have to "expect" it out of one another. When you are a pledge, its part of the deal. I haven't yet had a pledge class where anyone was opposed to looking nice.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Mac, not everyone here thinks the southern way is the best way. People here dance around that, but I'm tired of it not being said. It works for y'all, but those of us in the west, north and mid-west often have very different ways of doing things, and we like it that way. If we wanted to do things the way the southern chapters do it, we would.

[macallan25]

I know, thanks.

[Piswitch11]

I'm a Sigma Pi from the Midwest and from what Mac is saying my chapter looks at pledgeing the same way he and his brothers do, you must earn your way in and some comical brokeback hazing sounds funny to me. Hell they weren't touched or hurt for that matter. If they didn't want to be there they could have up and left but they took it like good pledges should. If you think I'm being insensative, we currently have a gay brother in the Fraternity and he's just like one of us and jokes about other pledges being gay which, so don't even try and come at me with a homophobe comment either.

Unlike 80% of the chapters out there now we make our brothers earn there letter instead of giving them 3 weeks of edu. and handing them letters.

[AlexMack]

I love it when a bunch of fraternity bros start passing judgement on a school they've never been to. Makes me all tingly inside.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by centaur532

I love it when a bunch of fraternity bros start passing judgement on a school they've never been to. Makes me all tingly inside.

Too bad I own a small ranch out in Vermont because the winters are nice out there and as a result have made acquaintances with a few UVM kids. I'm not saying I got a full vibe of the school because I'd never want to.

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by Piswitch11

I'm a Sigma Pi from the Midwest and from what Mac is saying my chapter looks at pledgeing the same way he and his brothers do, you must earn your way in and some comical brokeback hazing sounds funny to me. Hell they weren't touched or hurt for that matter. If they didn't want to be there they could have up and left but they took it like good pledges should. If you think I'm being insensative, we currently have a gay brother in the Fraternity and he's just like one of us and jokes about other pledges being gay which, so don't even try and come at me with a homophobe comment either.

Unlike 80% of the chapters out there now we make our brothers earn there letter instead of giving them 3 weeks of edu. and handing them letters.

So, you are saying 52.4 of the 66 fraternities in the NIC only have 3 week pledge programs? Wow, I didn't realize it was that many.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Piswitch11

Unlike 80% of the chapters out there now we make our brothers earn there letter instead of giving them 3 weeks of edu. and handing them letters.

I don't know anyone with a 3 week pledge program.

[AlexMack]

I actually know someone in the greek system at UVM (my best friend up there actually) so I can ask her rather than relying on newspapers, if there's any interest.