dropping membership

Adelphean · #1 10-05-2006, 12:50 AM

I can't imagine demanding anything back from a depledged sister. (Maybe the pin, but I certainly wouldn't give mine up if in the same situation.)

stagebear · #2 10-05-2006, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Adelphean

I can't imagine demanding anything back from a depledged sister. (Maybe the pin, but I certainly wouldn't give mine up if in the same situation.)

why not? if you have no affiliation with them, why would you want to keep their things?

my chapter always asked for the items back - all fraternity issues pins, handbook, etc; as well as anything with our name or letters on it. although not easy at times, you dont want someone to potentially misrepresent your chapter by wearing your letters around.

FSUZeta · #3 10-05-2006, 09:06 AM

agreed!! and i don't know about other npc groups, but in zta we are told from the getgo that the badge is the property of the fraternity-we "sort of " lease it.

the chapter i advise had the situation once, where an initiated member who was on executive council dropped her membership, and it was heck to get anything back from her-she was seen around campus in a lettered t-shirt, which upset the members no end. short of hiring guido to strong arm her, what can ya do?!?!? why would someone who thought so little of her sisters and the organization want to continue to portray herself as being a part of that org? maybe it was just to tick everyone off?

Adelphean · #4 10-05-2006, 06:57 PM

Does your IHQ refund money for badges, initiation fees, purchased letter items, ect.?

If I paid money for them, I OWN them. End of story.

Now as to whether or not I would want to keep them, the answer is no, but I'd put them on ebay before I just gave my money away.

FSUZeta · #5 10-05-2006, 07:15 PM

no, the money is not refunded. i believe that one effectively signs an agreement at some point in the new member period, that acknowledges that the badge remains the property of the organization and if membership is terminated for any reason, you agree to return said badge to the chapter for return to our international office, or if you are an alumna, directly to the i.o.

ProPhetic1 · #6 10-06-2006, 12:01 PM

Do you take away memoribilia that was purchased by the former member

AlphaFrog · #7 10-06-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ProPhetic1

Do you take away memoribilia that was purchased by the former member

Yes.

MReed1081 · #8 10-06-2006, 12:48 PM

I know that Alpha Phi always owns our badges- when a sister dies, the badge must be returned to the HQ, burried with the member, or given to a legacy. We are aware that the badge always belongs to the fraternity. This is why it bothers me so much when I see them sold on ebay!

ProPhetic1 · #9 10-10-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Yes.

How can U take away something that was purchased by the member themselves. I can see if U paid for it. But if it came out of their pockets how can U do that

Buttonz · #10 10-07-2006, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ProPhetic1

Do you take away memoribilia that was purchased by the former member

My chapter didn't, as it was thiers that they brought. Did I agree with this? No, but in some cases it turned out ok, like when an ex-member (and a good friend) sold some of her lettered stuff that her big gave her on ebay, and her big wound up being the one hat brought itfrom her without realziing at first who it was.

#11 10-09-2006, 01:03 PM

All I Got To Say. Is If You Denounce. Don't Let Me Catch You In The Streets Rocking My Letters...
Or Imma Have To Get The Baby Powder & Acid!!!!

FSUZeta · #12 10-09-2006, 04:54 PM

landlords expect one to pay rent, toyota expects one to make their car payments. if a student could not pay their tuition, they would no longer be considered a student at that college and would not be allowed to attend classes or receive grades-if a student is a member of the marching band, but does not attend practices, they will not be allowed to keep their membership in the band, if a student is a senator in sga, but does not attend sga meetings, they will not be allowed to continue to hold their office-why should a fraternity or sorority be any different?

now if the student has an extraordinary situation that kept them from paying their tuition, or attending band practice or sga meetings, accomodation will be made. the same is true of a sorority or fraternity member with an extraordinary situation-the sorority or fraternity will try to work with the member.

GDIfly · #13 10-09-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

why should a fraternity or sorority be any different?

Because fraternities and sororities, unlike a landlord, a college, a member of the marching band, etc. offer lifetime membership.

As people have mentioned, this lifetime membership is contingent on the keeping of promises made at initiation and if a girl specifically betrays the sorority by going against the sorority's ideals and the promises she made in initiation, then stripping her of her membership is totally understandable. I've never been through a ritual, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't imagine that a solemn and serious ceremony requires the initiate to promise that she will pay $400 or whatever a semester for the rest of her time in college. Implicitly, maybe, but I doubt founders had it in mind that girls would be stripped of their letters if they were unable to pay dues.

33girl provided me with an excellent answer. I can understand the difference between a girl who CAN'T pay and a girl who doesn't want to work hard enough to pay. And the differences with how you handle those situations. But given the differences between all of your examples and the nature of GLO's, I don't think it was a very good analogy. My major confusion was with how limited the idea of "lifetime membership" actually is when you get down to brass tacks.

ntrestednsgr · #14 10-07-2006, 01:15 PM

I think you may be right about ticking everyone off, and apparently it's working. Sometimes the only way to battle a mean spirit is to be one.

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

agreed!! and i don't know about other npc groups, but in zta we are told from the getgo that the badge is the property of the fraternity-we "sort of " lease it.

the chapter i advise had the situation once, where an initiated member who was on executive council dropped her membership, and it was heck to get anything back from her-she was seen around campus in a lettered t-shirt, which upset the members no end. short of hiring guido to strong arm her, what can ya do?!?!? why would someone who thought so little of her sisters and the organization want to continue to portray herself as being a part of that org? maybe it was just to tick everyone off?

#15 10-07-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

the chapter i advise had the situation once, where an initiated member who was on executive council dropped her membership, and it was heck to get anything back from her-she was seen around campus in a lettered t-shirt, which upset the members no end. short of hiring guido to strong arm her, what can ya do?!?!? why would someone who thought so little of her sisters and the organization want to continue to portray herself as being a part of that org? maybe it was just to tick everyone off?

If this member's already initiated, I don't think anyone has the right to tell her she can't wear lettered shirts.