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[Elephant Walk]

I'm taking a lot of Women's Studies courses this semester

Have fun being poor and hairy.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Have fun being poor and hairy.

Why would you assume that because I take Women's Studies classes that A) it is my major and future career path and B) I am a hairy person? I am NOT a feminist, but I do identify with many of the issues that they tackle because I am a woman. We are learning in our course how many woman avoid feminism because people (like yourself for example) like to make negative and offensive remarks that broadly stereotype their physical characteristics, sexuality, and career choices. We are also discussing how men (the dominant class) use "scare tactics" like your words above to discourage (whether knowingly doing so or not) women from defending their rights because of the dominant patriachal society that has been with us since the dawn of man/woman. I don't have a problem with ANYONE taking their clothes off to make money, but I do have a problem with someone feeling that it is okay to expose these pictures to those who are not willing viewers. Even now if someone wants to debate whether it's sexist or racist, that's fine, they have the right to do so. But I (as is ME MYSELF AND I AND NOT SPEAKING FOR ANY OTHER PERSON BUT MYSELF) firmly believe that tolerance of such acts (like the ones committed), if not addressed and immediately dealt with, give the impression that behavior like this is okay. And it's NOT OKAY.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

Why would you assume that because I take Women's Studies classes that A) it is my major and future career path and B) I am a hairy person? I am NOT a feminist, but I do identify with many of the issues that they tackle because I am a woman. We are learning in our course how many woman avoid feminism because people (like yourself for example) like to make negative and offensive remarks that broadly stereotype their physical characteristics, sexuality, and career choices. We are also discussing how men (the dominant class) use "scare tactics" like your words above to discourage (whether knowingly doing so or not) women from defending their rights because of the dominant patriachal society that has been with us since the dawn of man/woman.

I used to be on the "I'm NOT a feminist" tangent because I bought into the (gendered) stereotypes.

For clarity's sake:
There are different waves and extremes of feminism since the formal feminist wave of the 1970s. All that aside, being a (male or female) feminist simply means that you believe in equality across sex and gender.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I used to be on the "I'm NOT a feminist" tangent because I bought into the (gendered) stereotypes.

For clarity's sake:
There are different waves and extremes of feminism since the formal feminist wave of the 1970s. All that aside, being a (male or female) feminist simply means that you believe in equality across sex and gender.

I say that I'm not a feminist because for me it means being an active advocate for the rights of females. At this point in time, while I gladly stand up for my rights as best as I can, I don't have time to pursue them heavily. Perhaps when I'm older with a steady, proper job then I will devote more time to raising awareness for the worldwide injustice towards women. Right now, I'm just trying to make it through college!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

I say that I'm not a feminist because for me it means being an active advocate for the rights of females.

That's not what it means, though.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That's not what it means, though.

:light bulb: hey babypink, how bout you readjust that definition for us at the end of the semester sweets?

i dont know why women (or men) are afraid to identify with feminism. anyone who has some college education should know that feminism is not all the non-shaven, man-hating, equal-rights-wanting nonsense one thinks it is. and like sistergreek DSTCHAOS said, there are different waves of feminism that may or may not fit to your "i'm NOT a feminism" attitude.

to quote one of my professors (who considered herself feminist and womanist) re: feminism:

"when i realized that my opinion mattered, people were willing to listen to my opinion, and was no longer afraid to share it, that's when i knew i was a feminist, and furthermore a woman." think about that when you say "my opinion is just my opinion."

i know, i digress, but such is the state of GC these days. carry on.

[EE-BO]

Digress away,

"Who Stole Feminism" by Cristina Hoff Summer tells an intelligent tale about what happens when a vital social movement achieves its goals as an advocacy movement (meaning that further improvement is possible- but the need for political intervention has passed) and is then grotesquely twisted to fill the empty lives of an increasingly fanatical minority who need to find an outlet to deal with personal issues.

The same can be said for other movements as well.

Someone is going to misread this and go off- but oh well. I said it as carefully and succinctly as possible- so to hell with it.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

Why would you assume that because I take Women's Studies classes that A) it is my major and future career path and B) I am a hairy person? I am NOT a feminist, but I do identify with many of the issues that they tackle because I am a woman. We are learning in our course how many woman avoid feminism because people (like yourself for example) like to make negative and offensive remarks that broadly stereotype their physical characteristics, sexuality, and career choices. We are also discussing how men (the dominant class) use "scare tactics" like your words above to discourage (whether knowingly doing so or not) women from defending their rights because of the dominant patriachal society that has been with us since the dawn of man/woman. I don't have a problem with ANYONE taking their clothes off to make money, but I do have a problem with someone feeling that it is okay to expose these pictures to those who are not willing viewers. Even now if someone wants to debate whether it's sexist or racist, that's fine, they have the right to do so. But I (as is ME MYSELF AND I AND NOT SPEAKING FOR ANY OTHER PERSON BUT MYSELF) firmly believe that tolerance of such acts (like the ones committed), if not addressed and immediately dealt with, give the impression that behavior like this is okay. And it's NOT OKAY.

Girl I don't even know why you answered him. LOL