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09-13-2006, 02:52 PM
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Comparing the offensiveness of Abortion to that of racism? Heh? No point was really made in that scenario. Controversy surrounds the issue of abortion, but IGNORANCE surrounds racism and sexism. There's right and wrong. What they did was wrong. It WAS offensive if black women do find it offensive. That's reality. Y'ALL do not find it offensive because you are not in their shoes. Many of y'all are quick to down play the situation when something like this happens....
Anyways, I'm not surprised by this. It is UGA after all.
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09-13-2006, 02:57 PM
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Comparing the offensiveness of Abortion to that of racism? Heh? No point was really made in that scenario. Controversy surrounds the issue of abortion, but IGNORANCE surrounds racism and sexism. There's right and wrong. What they did was wrong. It WAS offensive if black women do find it offensive. That's reality. Y'ALL do not find it offensive because you are not in their shoes. Many of y'all are quick to down play the situation when something like this happens....
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but would closing their chapter really remove any ignorance? I think it would only cause more tension and set up an "us vs. them" mentality or continune or worsen it.
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09-13-2006, 03:00 PM
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but would closing their chapter really remove any ignorance? I think it would only cause more tension and set up an "us vs. them" mentality or continune or worsen it.
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No, it would not remove individual ignorance, but it would remove an organization from the campus that represents ignorance. I can't really think of any accredited 4-year institution that wants to associated with that. Can you?
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09-13-2006, 03:02 PM
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I can't really think of any accredited 4-year institution that wants to associated with that. Can you?
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Accredited 4-year insitutions have been associated with MUCH worse and managed to not complain about it.
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09-13-2006, 03:09 PM
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Accredited 4-year insitutions have been associated with MUCH worse and managed to not complain about it.
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True they have been. But now, it's 2006. The question is, do they CURRENTLY want to be associated with ignorance?
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09-13-2006, 03:19 PM
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The question is, do they CURRENTLY want to be associated with ignorance?
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Some institutions CURRENTLY don't care until they are forced to care.
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09-13-2006, 03:26 PM
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Some institutions CURRENTLY don't care until they are forced to care.
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My point exactly. When an organization does something truly STUPID and IGNORANT, and the administration takes notice of this, they have to do something about it. There are MANY examples of this in the media. I doubt if any institution wants their reputation tarnished. So what point are you trying to make?
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09-13-2006, 04:03 PM
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No, it would not remove individual ignorance, but it would remove an organization from the campus that represents ignorance. I can't really think of any accredited 4-year institution that wants to associated with that. Can you?
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Please remember, we do not know if Chi Phi sanctioned their pledges to do this. It has been established that some Chi Phi pledges did it, but the membership has denied that this was a 'pledge project'. If the pledges did it on their own, they should be kicked out of Chi Phi. But, the fraternity chapter as a whole should not be punished because of something stupid that some guys - [U]who are not even members yet[U] did.
If it is proven that the chapters members got together and said: "Hey, how about this for a project to build cohension. We have the pledges take pictures of people's reactions to a porn magazine being shoved in their faces! And, better yet, let's make it a porn mag featuring black women!" "Yeah, man, that sounds like a great idea! That will totally build brotherhood and cohesion for the chapter!" If this scenerio is proven, I whole heartedly support sanctions against the whole chapter. But, not until it's been proven.
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09-13-2006, 04:41 PM
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Why does it happening at UGA have anything to do with it?
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09-13-2006, 04:43 PM
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I'm trying to understand what the women being black had to do with anything.
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09-13-2006, 04:55 PM
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I'm trying to understand what the women being black had to do with anything.
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It offended certain people that white males were passing out pictures of a nude black female model. Those folks feel that their being offended is evidence that some kind of crime has been committed. They are seeking the punishment of those who offended them.
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09-14-2006, 02:18 AM
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Why does it happening at UGA have anything to do with it?
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The fact that YOU even said something....
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09-14-2006, 02:27 AM
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Y'all are on feminism now? Wow.
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09-14-2006, 01:13 PM
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The fact that YOU even said something....
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Right, so basically you didn't answer the question. What does it being at UGA have anything to do with it? I hope you aren't insinuating that UGA is some backwoods redneck school, because if thats the case, you might head to the library and do some research.
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09-13-2006, 04:43 PM
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No, it would not remove individual ignorance, but it would remove an organization from the campus that represents ignorance. I can't really think of any accredited 4-year institution that wants to associated with that. Can you?
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The organization was never found to have had anything to do with it. It was a few dumbass pledges....just because the paper mentioned that they were Chi Phi pledges doesn't make the chapter responsible.
There are alot of 4 year accredited institutions that have had much worse than this happen.
And I found it interesting that you would say you "weren't surprised by this since, afterall, it is UGA." What is that supposed to mean?
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