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06-12-2013, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06
I believe you totally missed the point here. He's not mad that he had a "shitty job" and thinks everyone should be miserable. Everyone should work one so that they appreciate what dealing with customers is like... so that they don't act all crazy like this whacko in the video.
He's not looking to pass a law requiring it or anything.
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This. I actually really like my day job. Can I see myself doing it forever? No, but it gives me a steady income, I have great relationships with my co-workers and bosses, and it's flexible enough to allow me to seek additional employment or schooling.
I'd bet dollars to donuts that most people that go off on people that work in the service industry have either never worked in it, or did long ago and have forgotten what it is like. Breaking it down to the bare minimum, my job is about making people happy. I want to make my bosses happy so I can stay employed, I want to make my co-workers happy so we can support each other during the day. I want to make the customers happy so they will continue to patronize the business, thus also securing my employment.
Also, on lighter note, I remembered this exists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWx6uA5aCrE
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06-12-2013, 12:51 AM
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You're taking what we're saying way too seriously.
And yes, it's true that SOME people gain a better understanding of something once they've been through it themselves.
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Not really. I was just replying to the way your post read, and you just reiterated what you said, but added the word "some" this time.
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Which is why it's reasonable to ask the person in the transaction "would you like a copy of your receipt?" It's important to some people to get the receipt. To others, it's just more clutter in their wallets or pocketbooks. Different strokes.
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06-12-2013, 08:57 AM
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Not really. I was just replying to the way your post read, and you just reiterated what you said, but added the word "some" this time.
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Oh, ok......
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06-12-2013, 09:12 AM
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What a complete douchebag.
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06-12-2013, 05:00 PM
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Oh, ok......

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You can shove that emoticon up your tight ass.
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06-12-2013, 05:24 PM
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You can shove that emoticon up your tight ass.
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Oh, ok.....
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06-12-2013, 08:18 PM
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You can shove that emoticon up your tight ass.
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Ooh. Temper, temper! Something tells me Mizeree I2K might be the one person in the world on the crazy bitch customer's side.
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06-12-2013, 09:37 AM
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06-12-2013, 11:27 AM
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Actually it is.
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I can agree here, and to comment on the other part of your Target experience. I mean, everyone you meet or have to deal with in life might not be of sound mind or character.
It's "contagious" in a sense, because someone who's ignorant (as in foolish) can make most people lose their composure, like that guy caused you to do. But instead of allowing your brain to become one major mass of reaction, it's best just to keep your cool when everyone else is losing theirs. People cast off restraint when they have no understanding. These same people are known to wonder aloud why their life is filled with turmoil in the aftermath of their foolish behavior.
It just doesn't pay to argue with them, or to push their buttons, while at the same time thinking that you're defending yourself, because people like that are always right in their own eyes. Whenever someone is always right in their own eyes, you're better off arguing with a brick wall. This is why it's best to leave them to fight with themselves and focus on the positive.
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I'd bet dollars to donuts that most people that go off on people that work in the service industry have either never worked in it, or did long ago and have forgotten what it is like.
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I'd bet dollars to donuts that people who are rude to people that work in the service industry has little to do with whether they've been in it themselves or not. It has to do with the accumulation of the many experiences they've had throughout their lives, not whether they've had experience working that kind of job or not.
How can you blame a person for being that way, when in a sense, her/his birthright promoted it? Most of it is based on that person's relationship with themselves, their family, their friends, teachers, etc...etc... All of these people make up the core that is central to how we all function and interact with the rest of the world at large. We are bits and pieces of every person we have encountered, which eventually is exposed when dealing with or connecting with others. That's what it all comes down to.
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06-12-2013, 12:47 PM
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How can you blame a person for being that way, when in a sense, her/his birthright promoted it?
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You lost me on this for a minute, but I get the sarcasm Lol. So true. I also agree with what you said about it being based on other issues, and not the job itself.. I work retail, and I've never looked at it that way, but I'm going to start. I had an exprerience with a customer the other day about our Sony Kiosk picture making machine. Sometimes it freezes when it's receiving too much information all at the same time. She said she spent over an hour editing the pictures she wanted printed. She went off on me, because I told her I had to reboot the machine. She felt since I'm the manager, that I should know how to fix the machine. We call in the machines to the manufacturer whenever there's a problem with them. She went on and on. She was a very impatient, rude lady. On the other hand, I've had some very patient, nice customers who were not rude. Even when it was our fault, they understood.
With the video, I actually think the clerk handled it well. I've seen much worse than her.
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06-13-2013, 10:34 AM
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How can you blame a person for being that way, when in a sense, her/his birthright promoted it? Most of it is based on that person's relationship with themselves, their family, their friends, teachers, etc...etc... All of these people make up the core that is central to how we all function and interact with the rest of the world at large. We are bits and pieces of every person we have encountered, which eventually is exposed when dealing with or connecting with others. That's what it all comes down to.
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Not to belabor the point, but I think you and Mizeree I2K are missing what folks are trying to say.
I know you have the vending machine business. If you shake a vending machine, it likely starts throwing things out of alignment and will mess up future transactions. When you go to service your machines and notice things look wacky, you may say "Gosh, why do people shake these machines? Now I have to spend time fixing it. I wish they knew what it took to fix these machines so they wouldn't shake them." Does that mean you want every person to own a vending machine at one point in their lives? No, of course not. But, in your state of venting, you do realize that someone who had a similar experience as you (read: owning the machine) would realize what it took to maintain it.
That's all folks are saying. "I wish this asshole knew what it was like being a cashier" is only saying "If you had been a cashier in the past, you probably wouldn't be an asshole right now" -- not "My job sucks and I wish you had to suffer the way I do every day"
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06-13-2013, 07:01 PM
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Not to belabor the point, but I think you and Mizeree I2K are missing what folks are trying to say.
I know you have the vending machine business. If you shake a vending machine, it likely starts throwing things out of alignment and will mess up future transactions. When you go to service your machines and notice things look wacky, you may say "Gosh, why do people shake these machines? Now I have to spend time fixing it. I wish they knew what it took to fix these machines so they wouldn't shake them." Does that mean you want every person to own a vending machine at one point in their lives? No, of course not. But, in your state of venting, you do realize that someone who had a similar experience as you (read: owning the machine) would realize what it took to maintain it.
That's all folks are saying. "I wish this asshole knew what it was like being a cashier" is only saying "If you had been a cashier in the past, you probably wouldn't be an asshole right now" -- not "My job sucks and I wish you had to suffer the way I do every day"
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This!
People tend to be more sympathetic toward one another when they've been through a similar experience. That's all.
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06-14-2013, 03:29 AM
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You lost me on this for a minute, but I get the sarcasm Lol.
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Not to belabor the point, but I think you and Mizeree I2K are missing what folks are trying to say.
I know you have the vending machine business. If you shake a vending machine, it likely starts throwing things out of alignment and will mess up future transactions. When you go to service your machines and notice things look wacky, you may say "Gosh, why do people shake these machines? Now I have to spend time fixing it. I wish they knew what it took to fix these machines so they wouldn't shake them." Does that mean you want every person to own a vending machine at one point in their lives? No, of course not. But, in your state of venting, you do realize that someone who had a similar experience as you (read: owning the machine) would realize what it took to maintain it.
That's all folks are saying. "I wish this asshole knew what it was like being a cashier" is only saying "If you had been a cashier in the past, you probably wouldn't be an asshole right now" -- not "My job sucks and I wish you had to suffer the way I do every day"
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I don't know what Mizeree I2K was trying to point out, because his attitude is not far off from the very same attitudes he's complaining about. Foolish behavior is usually "contagious" to other people who are foolish. i.e. wanting to beat up a customer at Target? Okay.
With me, I'm not missing your point, and you aren't missing mine. We don't agree, that's what it is. I understand that people here are venting. You and I have already discussed that. My point was an "asshole" (if that's what you want to call them) is going to be an "asshole" regardless. They are always right in their own eyes, and that is a character issue. It is a character issue because it is based on that person's experiences long before she/he got to the person she/he is mistreating or being an "asshole" to. These people don't offer much grace for other people's failings or mistakes because they can't relate to anything other than their own experiences (based on how they were raised). And a character is not someone you pretend to be, it is who you are. And that simply is based on years of conditioning, which comes from your parents, teachers, family, friends, etc. and/or who you associate yourself with. So once again, it has very little to do with a receipt, or with the clerk.
All we have when we have completed our lives is the reputation we leave behind. It will remain as a testament not only of who we were, but of who others became because of us.
With my vending machines, I had one that was damaged beyond repair when I was in school. The first thought that went through my mind was not "I wish they knew how expensive it was to maintain these...." My thoughts were that it was someone who was an idiot, who didn't have any home training. Those were my thoughts, not the thoughts you assumed I may have had.
Now, with that said, you can continue to believe what you would like, but my thoughts on this subject are going to remain the same.
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06-14-2013, 11:54 AM
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I thought you were being sarcastic. I get what you mean about people being the way they are based on what they were taught for "birth" (assuming that's what you were trying to say), but that's not what a birthright is. It's more like an inheritance or an entitlement from birth, not what they've been taught.
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