Second Presidential Debate

[Virtual Violet]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

pink another thing that is coming out too (on MSNBC) not only did he say it condescendingly I may add...he was addressing a Black male and also flubbed his name.

some other points

here is when McCain got unraveled

By the way, my friends, I know you grow a little weary with this back-and-forth. It was an energy bill on the floor of the Senate loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies, and it was sponsored by Bush and Cheney.

You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one. You know who voted against it? Me. I have fought time after time against these pork barrel -- these bills that come to the floor and they have all kinds of goodies and all kinds of things in them for everybody and they buy off the votes.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...al_debate.html

I totally bristled at the "that one" comment (I thought is was rude and disrespectful not to refer to his opponent by name) , couple that with the fact that once again, Sen. McCain did not seem to want to be cordial to Sen Obama after the debate, makes me question whether to believe Senator McCain will actually make the effort to "reach across the aisle" in a bipartisan fashion as President. (I know he may have trouble actually shaking hands, but it seems that McCain avoids eye contact and hand shakes with Obama--- he did it at the last debate, on the Senate floor during the bailout, and tonight)

(CORRECTION) This morning Brokaw said the candidates did shake hands last night-but I still stand by my comments overall, McCain is "prickly" when in attack mode.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Virtual Violet

I totally bristled at the "that one" comment (I thought is was rude and disrespectful not to refer to his opponent by name) , couple that with the fact that once again, Sen. McCain did not seem to want to be cordial to Sen Obama after the debate, makes me question whether to believe Senator McCain will actually make the effort to "reach across the aisle" in a bipartisan fashion as President. (I know he may have trouble actually shaking hands, but it seems that McCain avoids eye contact and hand shakes with Obama--- he did it at the last debate, on the Senate floor during the bailout, and tonight)

Oh "That One" bounced out as soon as it was over while Obama stayed on the floor and talked with voters for 20 mins.....

short version is this: McCain was made to look like a grumpy old man who was desperate and many times appeared angry and contrite even with Brokaw...and Obama looked poised and polished....NO TELEPROMPTER needed.

[PeppyGPhiB]

I thought this format was a real disadvantage to McCain. Maybe he likes town halls when it's a Republican audience, but these weren't his peeps in the audience tonight. No one to laugh at his awkward "jokes" or ask the questions he's planted. I also thought he looked really OLD shuffling around the stage the way he did, and the more I listen to him, the older and shakier he sounds to me.

I watched after-debate coverage on CNN and MSNBC, and they made a few points over and over: the "that one" reference was disrespectful; that Obama looked/sounded like the future and McCain looked/sounded like the past; that McCain is out of touch with the generations younger than him that are watching the debate (all his nostalgia for Reagan); and that Obama seized the opportunity to talk to the debate attendees afterward whereas McCain took off.

BTW, MSNBC, CNN and CBS polls all are showing numbers overwhelmingly in Obama's favor tonight, not just in terms of who won the debate but also who is strongest on economy and who expresses their ideas more clearly.