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Originally Posted by Jeff OTMG
I agree that accidental gun deaths should not be excluded from 'gun violence' stats because the death would not have occurred otherwise. Fortunately the accidental gun death rate is at an all time low. 613 in 2007, 592 in 2008, and dropping. Having been a firearms trainer, shooter, competitor, in some way shape or form over the last 40 years and growing up in a home where my father was an FBI agent for 30 years with loaded guns in the home out in the open, I strongly urge any of you with young children to seriously look at the NRA Eddie the Eagle gun safety program. It is the best that I have ever seen. It is the most effective program available. I taught the program in schools to at risk children when I was working in Indianapolis back in 2000 and 2001.
It isn't true of suicide. People committing suicide use whatever method is available. Removing firearms from a population does not prevent suicide. See Japan.
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It shows how little you know about suicide. Add a gun to Japan and the suicide rate would likely increase significantly. Many times the only thing standing in the way of a suicidal person and actually committing the act is an easy way to do it. Suicide by gun is also the most effective method so the attempted suicide rate would go down with a sharp increase in the successful suicide rate. Also, from my experience in emergency rooms, many cases of suicide are committed with other peoples guns, ie. parent or partner's weapon, which is why a sustained education program would help decrease deaths due to suicide as well as accidental deaths from gun violence since it is recommended that gun storage in a family home that these factors into account. (which by the way would make it really hard to fight off that intruder that everyone is afraid of when your gun is in a safe with a trigger lock and your bullets are stored somewhere else...anything else puts your children and family in danger which statistically is more likely that someone breaking into your house in the first place.
) I think you'll find that all of us "vitriolic" gun regulating liberals just want basic protections for people. We see gun enthusiasts balk at every single suggestion even when it comes to assault weapons, high capacity clips etc. the argument that "only the criminals will have them" is pretty lame when every time these items have been used in a mass killing in the US, the items have been bought legally.
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