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Old 07-21-2012, 07:42 PM
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ETA: Since I'm a number/ math nerd, this was interesting to me. DC is high up there with the guns, as are the Virgin Islands (whoa!)
Yeah, DC has guns everywhere. And, even though it is technically legal to own one after the Heller ruling, it is logistically impossible due to restrictions that can't be met.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:50 AM
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Interesting chart:



Interesting to see how this translates to red and blue states. I also had to idea that Michigan was so populated..... (or if it isn't, there are just a lot of gun and motor vehicle deaths there).


ETA: Since I'm a number/ math nerd, this was interesting to me. DC is high up there with the guns, as are the Virgin Islands (whoa!)

This makes me think that being in Massachusetts I have a good chance of not being killed by vehicle or gun. Now I just need to avoid the coyotes that hang out by my car early in the morning when I'm going to work....
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Yeah, DC has guns everywhere. And, even though it is technically legal to own one after the Heller ruling, it is logistically impossible due to restrictions that can't be met.
This data is from 2009, the most recent available, before the overturn of the DC gun ban. Now, I suspect that we will see their numbers rise in the coming years.

As to the supposition that you cannot decrease gun deaths, that is ridiculous. Common sense regulations, better education...the same things we did with car safety will decrease the gun death rate. The number of deaths are #1 not all intentional #2 preventable. If gun enthusiasts look at these stats and can't see ANYTHING wrong, that is a problem. There is a solution to every problem, but the solution to this one is not more guns.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:39 AM
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I suspect that we will see their numbers rise in the coming years.
That should be interesting since all the shootings in DC were done with illegal guns. So the people who had them were criminals. Imagine that, criminals committig crime. I actually had a guy try to tell me that the high firearm death rate in DC was due to the weak gun laws in Virginia. I simply asked, why the firearm homicide rate in Virginia wasn't higher than in DC? Someday people will realize that it is the person, not the guns.

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As to the supposition that you cannot decrease gun deaths, that is ridiculous. Common sense regulations, better education...the same things we did with car safety will decrease the gun death rate.
You are exactly right and that is what has been happening for years. The firearms death rate has been dropping and improved widespread safety training, concealed carry permit training, the increase in IPSC, SASS, and IDPA competitions have all helped to that end.

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There is a solution to every problem, but the solution to this one is not more guns.
I don't believe that there is a solution to EVERY problem. There may be a solution to every problem at some time in the future, but not immediately.
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