Liberal Activist Gets Stomped On By Rand Paul Supporters

[PiKA2001]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...=news/politics

She said she had no interaction with Paul's supporters before the rally, and just wanted to get a photo with Paul holding a sign that said "employee of the month award."

The satirical prize was from Republicorp, a fake business MoveOn created to symbolize what the liberal group says is a cozy relationship between corporate American and the GOP.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/head-...eleased-video/

This video was sent to RedState by an anonymous witness at the event. It shows what Valle was doing when the Paul supporters grabbed her. No one chased her around the car. She was never in front of the car. As you can see in the video, Valle reached in the candidate’s window with her “RepubliCorp” sign and shoved it in his face. Several supporters in Paul shirts have her surrounded at that point, and a man in a suit is the first person to actually intervene physically. It’s hard to tell from the video, but it could be that the man in the suit was with Paul’s security staff.

What do you guys think about this? At first I was somewhat disturbed by the idea that supporters of Paul would attack someone just for having different views, but if the guys who held her down sincerely believed she was trying to harm Paul then this changes everything in my eyes. There seems to be a few different "stories" on what happened. I've heard she was wearing the wig for concealment because she was known locally to crash and disrupt GOP events, but the article I posted has her saying she wears the wig for fashion....

I heard an interview with her and she kept stating it was just a prank... no big deal... so dumb on her part IMHO. It's all fun and games until someones head gets stomped on

I honestly believe that if she had done the same thing to a politician who has a Secret Service detail attached to them this girl would have been taken down harder AND arrested.

[agzg]

This reminds me of that girl in 2008 who said someone held her down and carved a B in her forehead.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by agzg

This reminds me of that girl in 2008 who said someone held her down and carved a B in her forehead.

CRAZZZYYYY!

[XAntoftheSkyX]

Well you know how you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice.

[AlphaFrog]

I feel that since she was there to cause trouble in the first place, she got exactly as she deserved.

[KSig RC]

Don't get me wrong, quite a few of MoveOn.org's tactics have made me want to kick them in the metaphorical dick . . . but in general (and assuming this is true), you probably still shouldn't stomp on people.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Don't get me wrong, quite a few of MoveOn.org's tactics have made me want to kick them in the metaphorical dick . . . but in general (and assuming this is true), you probably still shouldn't stomp on people.

But what if you did it to protect someone? Like I said in my OP, apparently "security" thought she was trying to attack Paul.

I was watching CNN news earlier and apparently the guy had put meant to put his foot on her shoulder to restrain her but had brushed her head with his foot in the process. It wasn't a straight on full contact head stomp nor was it meant to be. How I love conflicting reports.

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

But what if you did it to protect someone? Like I said in my OP, apparently "security" thought she was trying to attack Paul.

All you have to do is watch the video. The stomp was deliberate and unnecessary.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

But what if you did it to protect someone? Like I said in my OP, apparently "security" thought she was trying to attack Paul.

I was watching CNN news earlier and apparently the guy had put meant to put his foot on her shoulder to restrain her but had brushed her head with his foot in the process. It wasn't a straight on full contact head stomp nor was it meant to be. How I love conflicting reports.

Obviously security can do what they need to do, but it's at least worth noting:

1 - I haven't seen any real confirmation of the story (from either side), mostly conjecture on what may have happened.

2 - I'd almost guarantee using your foot to restrain someone's shoulder isn't a recommended security technique.

There's degrees of lunatic - I think dudes on the ballfield should get destroyed by players, because the players don't know if the guy has a knife or what, for example - but until we know that degree, I think my general statement of "generally don't stomp people" is fair, no?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

But what if you did it to protect someone? Like I said in my OP, apparently "security" thought she was trying to attack Paul.

I was watching CNN news earlier and apparently the guy had put meant to put his foot on her shoulder to restrain her but had brushed her head with his foot in the process. It wasn't a straight on full contact head stomp nor was it meant to be. How I love conflicting reports.

There is a video though which addresses some of the 'conflicting reports'

I don't believe the people involved were 'security' and could still have been charged with assault and false imprisonment for the restraint or placing feet on shoulder. It's not fucking ok to lay hands, or feet, on someone and it's not ok to stomp them either.

Originally Posted by agzg

This reminds me of that girl in 2008 who said someone held her down and carved a B in her forehead.

Except, you know, video.

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I feel that since she was there to cause trouble in the first place, she got exactly as she deserved.

Fuck off.

[Elephant Walk]

As a note, I'm a huge Rand Paul fan.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Fuck off.

Sometimes I feel that you have a permanent case of the Mondays.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Obviously security can do what they need to do, but it's at least worth noting:

1 - I haven't seen any real confirmation of the story (from either side), mostly conjecture on what may have happened.

2 - I'd almost guarantee using your foot to restrain someone's shoulder isn't a recommended security technique.

There's degrees of lunatic - I think dudes on the ballfield should get destroyed by players, because the players don't know if the guy has a knife or what, for example - but until we know that degree, I think my general statement of "generally don't stomp people" is fair, no?

I never said that her getting stepped on was at all justified but at the same time I'm not going to be breaking out my violin for her either. She initiated the situation by trying to pull a dumb, immature prank on a politician and it backfired on her. Like I said before, It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt.

[agzg]

Meh I don't doubt that it actually happened, really to me it's another example of the absurdity of all of these political races.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I never said that her getting stepped on was at all justified but at the same time I'm not going to be breaking out my violin for her either.

Oh I definitely couldn't care less about the particular woman - she seems like the exact kind of political tard (really? bussed in from somewhere else?) that I just don't jive with.

But at the same time, the very best time to support things like "not beating someone's ass" is when they may partially deserve it, but haven't earned it.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Sometimes I feel that you have a permanent case of the Mondays.

She's playing Rebel Without A Cause, Rage Against The Machine, I'm Unique Because I'm a Non-Conformist. Pick one. She's still upset about he ex, and she's trying to act like she doesn't give a damn about anyone or anything. Look at the southern shoes thread... "I'm not following any social rules because social rules are stupid". Yes - I went there, because someone needed to call her on it.