Rushing at a university while attending a CC

[UFchompian]

I am going to a CC and plan on going to UF after fall. Do you guys know if frats allow rushing if you goto a CC?

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by UFchompian

I am going to a CC and plan on going to UF after fall. Do you guys know if frats allow rushing if you goto a CC?

Originally Posted by ufpiphi

As always, these lovely women have provided you with excellent advice.

I would like to correct a statement you made in your orginal post. The University of Florida DOES NOT allow community college students to partake in formal Panhellenic recruitment nor join a GLO prior to attending UF full-time.

Several fraternities at UF, however, have long practiced the intake of SFCC studnets into their chapters. I'm unsure of how they deal with this, but I do know of a particular instance in which the "member" was not a "member" in the eyes of their nationals, until he became a full-time student at UF. I'm assumming your friends who did this at UF are all male?

Best of luck, I hope you decide to rush when you become a student at FSU, their Greek system has an excellent reputation.

Generally speaking, NIC/IFCs are able to extend bids prior to a student being enrolled (i.e. to high school seniors in some cases). Thus it may be possible for a community college student to receive a bid. However, to be initiated as a full member etc., he would have to be enrolled at the university. So my guess is that he would (could) only be considered a pledge until he actually enrolls at the university full time and is able to initiate.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Some will allow you to join, but you'll be missing out on everything that requires you to be a UF student.

I think I know what you're getting at, but do you mean things like homecoming and Greek Week? How would anyone know if (for example) the guys building the float are students or not?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by TSteven

Generally speaking, NIC/IFCs are able to extend bids prior to a student being enrolled (i.e. to high school seniors in some cases). Thus it may be possible for a community college student to receive a bid. However, to be initiated as a full member etc., he would have to be enrolled at the university. So my guess is that he would (could) only be considered a pledge until he actually enrolls at the university full time and is able to initiate.

I would think this would still vary from organization to organization. It was long rumored at my undergrad that TKE regularly initiated non-students... even had them living in their house.

TKE's membership policies, from what I've seen tend to be more liberal than others though.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I would think this would still vary from organization to organization. It was long rumored at my undergrad that TKE regularly initiated non-students... even had them living in their house.

TKE's membership policies, from what I've seen tend to be more liberal than others though.

I agree. Which is why I addressed a *general* concept of rushing/bidding etc.

Regarding initiating non-students, is it your understanding that this is done with HQs approval? Or is this some sort of "underground" related initiation.

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Some will allow you to join, but you'll be missing out on everything that requires you to be a UF student.

You'll be doing everything the other guys are for the most part, but you won't be on the books.

You should also know that this is coming only from word of mouth. I don't have any real facts.

Originally Posted by 33girl

I think I know what you're getting at, but do you mean things like homecoming and Greek Week? How would anyone know if (for example) the guys building the float are students or not?

You never know. The way some Greek Life Departments like to regulate everything, they might only allow enrolled students to handle tissue stuffing duty.

Seriously, the issues would be that HQ might not recognize him as anything more than a long, long term pledge. As such, he may not have the same rights associated with membership. And there are brotherhood activities that he might miss out on as well.

For example, depending on the organization and/or the chapter, he might be missing out such things as ritual meetings, membership selections, and holding an office. His GPA wouldn't go toward the chapter's GPA. (Now that might be a good thing.) He might see his fellow pledges go on to be initiated while he remains a pledge. Since he isn't a student at that campus, he might very well miss out on certain campus or university related events. Those that might require him to be an enrolled student to attend. Like going with your chapter (pledge class) to football and basketball games. Campus events like concerts. And there might be risk management issues that might restrict who can attend certain on campus events. As someone who isn't a full time student, he may miss out on those as well. All of these - and perhaps more - would be out of the chapter's control.

So while there may be benefits to joining a chapter while not enrolled at that campus, the original poster should understand that doing so does not guarantee the full benefits of the brotherhood.

Now the flip (up) side is that if he does understand - and accept - the possible limitations of being a long term pledge etc. - then he can benefit from various aspects of the brotherhood.

[arizona13]

wow

[ufpiphi]

This has become an interesting topic.

UFChompion: The particular instance I cited in a different thread may be of interest to you. This SFCC student lived in the fraternity house and was able to take a little brother. I do not know for sure if he was privy to ritual events but I was never led to believe he wasn't.

[UFchompian]

I thank all of you guys.

I am going to try and go out to rush week and see what I can do

I understand that there will be things that I can't participate in and I am ok with that. The football and basketball games I am not worried about because my uncle is a football booster and gets me tickets to both anyway.

Once again thanks for all your comments