Gunman Opens Fire During "The Dark Knight Rises"

[ComradesTrue]

This is just heartbreaking beyond belief. Prayers for the victims, their friends and families. I can't get my head around what it would take to commit this type of act.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/col...html?hpt=hp_t1

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by Blondie93

This is just heartbreaking beyond belief. Prayers for the victims, their friends and families. I can't get my head around what it would take to commit this type of act.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/col...html?hpt=hp_t1

It takes evil & hopelessness to commit such an act. Very sad

[AOII Angel]

A three month old was in the group of victims. SMH. Just glad they caught the guy.

[ForeverRoses]

So sad.

I saw that one of the victims may have been a six year old? Who takes a six year old to a midnight screening of a movie? (I can understand taking the infant, they will probably sleep though it)

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

So sad.

I saw that one of the victims may have been a six year old? Who takes a six year old to a midnight screening of a movie? (I can understand taking the infant, they will probably sleep though it)

I know...but you see kids of all ages at 2AM in Walmart now days. Go figure. Poor kid. I'm sure they didn't expect to get a gunshot wound with their movie popcorn.

[sarajean94]

I read this - how heartbreaking. Thoughts & prayers going out to all of those affected by the shooting.

[KSUViolet06]

I'm hearing that they don't actually know if the infant passed away or not.

[tcsparky]

I attended an IMAX showing of the trilogy last night, ending with Dark Knight Rises opening at midnight. I can totally see how the audience may have originally thought it was part of the theatrics planned by the movie theatre. And depending on where it occurred in the movie, the adjacent theatres wouldn't have noticed the sounds right away. This is very sad.

I also see how this is a case advocating for personal concealed carry. If just one person in that theatre had been trained and able to stop this guy, imagine how many of those 12 deaths could have possibly been prevented.

Let's just hope this guy isn't found "not guilty for reason of mental defect", or whatever they call it there.

[Always AlphaGam]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I'm hearing that they don't actually know if the infant passed away or not.

Various news sources are reporting that the 3 month old has already been discharged.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by tcsparky

I attended an IMAX showing of the trilogy last night, ending with Dark Knight Rises opening at midnight. I can totally see how the audience may have originally thought it was part of the theatrics planned by the movie theatre. And depending on where it occurred in the movie, the adjacent theatres wouldn't have noticed the sounds right away. This is very sad.

I just watched an interview with a witness.

He said the guy started shooting in the middle of an action scene in the movie.

His original thought was "Wow these are pretty great sound effects." Then he realized that people in the theatre were screaming.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by tcsparky

I also see how this is a case advocating for personal concealed carry. If just one person in that theatre had been trained and able to stop this guy, imagine how many of those 12 deaths could have possibly been prevented.

There is a huge leap between someone in the audience having a concealed weapon and someone being able to stop the guy. He had full body armor and was carrying an AK-47 (or something similar; I've seen conflicting reports).

[tcsparky]

And it's a huge leap to "the bad guy might be wearing body armor therefore we all should be defenseless against whatever happens." As I said, if one person had been able to stop this guy.....Body armor has weaknesses. It doesn't protect everything. I am willing to take my chances on myself or others in the audience trying to make the guy stop rather than curl up in a ball and beg not to be shot next.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by tcsparky

And it's a huge leap to "the bad guy might be wearing body armor therefore we all should be defenseless against whatever happens." As I said, if one person had been able to stop this guy.....Body armor has weaknesses. It doesn't protect everything. I am willing to take my chances on myself or others in the audience trying to make the guy stop rather than curl up in a ball and beg not to be shot next.

Methinks you know very little about the accuracy of handguns.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by tcsparky

Let's just hope this guy isn't found "not guilty for reason of mental defect", or whatever they call it there.

In Colorado, you have to be able to prove that the Defendant couldn't distinguish between right or wrong. I think that'd be a hell of a tough sell considering the fact that he planned this thing out, probably over a period of months or years. His apartment is boobytrapped, he was wearing body armor, so he had to think that what he was doing would be wrong enough that someone might shoot back, so while I think this is a possible defense, it's a terrible defense in this case for a number of reasons.

Insanity defenses or not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect defenses are incredibly rare to see used and it's much rarer to see those defenses actually work.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Methinks you know very little about the accuracy of handguns.

Even if you hit someone on the body armor, it's going to sting enough to slow them down.