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Old 01-22-2009, 09:00 AM
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heh...for those that got offended at what Jay Z said....take a gander at this:


RUSH: I got a request here from a major American print publication. "Dear Rush: For the Obama [Immaculate] Inauguration we are asking a handful of very prominent politicians, statesmen, scholars, businessmen, commentators, and economists to write 400 words on their hope for the Obama presidency. We would love to include you. If you could send us 400 words on your hope for the Obama presidency, we need it by Monday night, that would be ideal." Now, we're caught in this trap again. The premise is, what is your "hope." My hope, and please understand me when I say this. I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle who have caved and who say, "Well, I hope he succeeds. We've got to give him a chance." Why? They didn't give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I'm not talking about search-and-destroy, but I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed.

If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails." (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, "Oh, you can't do that." Why not? Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don't care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: "Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails." Somebody's gotta say it.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...113.guest.html


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I guess it would be wrong if somebody says that they hope Rush ODs.....hehe

"Somebody's gotta say it."
I don't see how "I don't like Obama's policies and I hope he isn't successful in implementing them" is even close to "I hope a man dies from overdosing."
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:41 AM
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I don't see how "I don't like Obama's policies and I hope he isn't successful in implementing them" is even close to "I hope a man dies from overdosing."
"Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."

The fact that Rush stated aloud his own prejudices and hateful ideologies over the health and welfare of the country is disgusting all by itself.
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:05 AM
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"Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."

The fact that Rush stated aloud his own prejudices and hateful ideologies over the health and welfare of the country is disgusting all by itself.
To me, when someone says that they hope a President fails, I read that as meaning that they hope his policies fail.

You're also stating that Obama's policies are good for "the health and welfare of the country," and honestly, that's just your opinion at this point (as well as the opinion of those who voted for Obama). There's nothing to say that his policies will be successful, and we won't know that for quite a while.

There are people who have legitimate problems with his platform, and there are a lot of people who think that his policies won't help the country and who hope he fails in implementing them. That's just the nature of being a President - some people want your policies to fail, because they don't agree with said policies.

I'm by no means a Rush fan, but I see no problem with what he said.

I understand Rush says some ridiculous stuff, and that he can be a real lightning rod...but you're stretching it a bit here.

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Old 01-22-2009, 10:08 AM
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To me, when someone says that they hope a President fails, I read that as meaning that they hope his policies fail.

You're also stating that Obama's policies are good for "the health and welfare of the country," and honestly, that's just your opinion at this point (as well as the opinion of those who voted for Obama). There's nothing to say that his policies will be successful, and we won't know that for quite a while.

Not everyone likes Obama's policies, and there are a lot of people who think that his policies won't help the country and who hope he fails in implementing them. That's just the nature of being a President - some people want your policies to fail.

I'm by no means a Rush fan, but I see no problem with what he said.

I understand Rush says some ridiculous stuff, and that he can be a real lightning rod...but you're stretching it a bit here.

Precisely.
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:09 AM
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To me, when someone says that they hope a President fails, I read that as meaning that they hope his policies fail.

I'm by no means a Rush fan, but I see no problem with what he said.

Not everyone likes Obama's policies, and there are a lot of people who think that his policies won't help the country and who hope he fails in implementing them. That's just the nature of being a President - some people want your policies to fail.

I understand Rush says some ridiculous stuff...but you're stretching it a bit here.
Sorry but with Rush and taking a look back at his track record, I disagree with you when anyone thinks that ALL he meant was policy.

Wordplay at work.
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:58 PM
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Sorry but with Rush and taking a look back at his track record, I disagree with you when anyone thinks that ALL he meant was policy.

Wordplay at work.
Very much so. The sad thing is that people were actually fooled by his attempt to clean it up and pretend he was only referring to Obama's policies. Right. lmao
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:06 AM
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"Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."
In implementing the policies that Limbaugh doesn't agree with.

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The fact that Rush stated aloud his own prejudices and hateful ideologies over the health and welfare of the country is disgusting all by itself.
Limbaugh is like Ann Coulter, whatever good points he's making is being coated in shock rock. Get distracted by that at your own risk.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:14 PM
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"Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."

The fact that Rush stated aloud his own prejudices and hateful ideologies over the health and welfare of the country is disgusting all by itself.
This is imbecilic.

Limbaugh may indeed be "hateful" and "prejudiced" but his statement, as quoted in your OP, is neither. It is anti-liberal, a stance that is not implicitly hateful or prejudiced. What, did you simply go with whatever Bush said? No, not at all - you railed against the man, both politically and personally. Now Limbaugh does the same for his politics, standing up for the same things he's been preaching to the evangelical right for decades, and you resort to ad hominem and say it's racist - seriously? You don't see the irony? You're assigning personal motives for him, when you yourself do the same thing and REJECT ANY PERSONAL MOTIVE. Come on. It's not like Limbaugh didn't wish ill on Clinton politically. Context matters.

You are reaching here, even with the comparison with the Jay-Z thread (which sucks too). At least "No more white lies" can be construed as "lies from Whites" - this thread is absolute tripe, DS, and contributes to the clusterfuck that political discussions have become on this board.

Simply put: this discussion would be better if you were. That's the new mantra, not just for you, but for everybody. Think about that before you post. Jesus.

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Old 01-22-2009, 01:18 PM
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This is imbecilic.

Limbaugh may indeed be "hateful" and "prejudiced" but his statement, as quoted in your OP, is neither. It is anti-liberal, a stance that is not implicitly hateful or prejudiced.

You are reaching here. At least "No more white lies" can be construed as "lies from Whites" - this thread is absolute tripe, DS, and contributes to the clusterfuck that political discussions have become on this board.

Simply put: this discussion would be better if you were. That's the new mantra, not just for you, but for everybody. Think about that before you post. Jesus.
Sorry if you don't like it.

But Rush simply is not credible when making statements like that.

Again, his track record alone proves that when he opens his mouth there will be questions and cringing behind whatever tends to fall out.

Take it as you see it.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:36 PM
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Sorry if you don't like it.

But Rush simply is not credible when making statements like that.

Again, his track record alone proves that when he opens his mouth there will be questions and cringing behind whatever tends to fall out.

Take it as you see it.
Credibility is markedly different than the assertions you made in the original post.

Indeed, even if you'd simply said "I can't take this bigot seriously" you would have been on the right path. You didn't.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:41 PM
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Credibility is markedly different than the assertions you made in the original post.

Indeed, even if you'd simply said "I can't take this bigot seriously" you would have been on the right path. You didn't.
I was, you didn't follow.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:43 PM
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I was, you didn't follow.
Really? You're claiming my reading comprehension was off? I mean . . . do you want me to walk through this?
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