PinkBabygirl10's Informal Sorority Recruitment Thread - Page 9

AGDee · #**121** 02-21-2007, 11:49 PM

If you have a formal structured recruitment, then having every chapter offer bids to everybody they want would be chaos. If there are 15 sororities and 1200 PNMs, then it's possible that all 15 could offer bids to a couple hundred women. You could have one chapter getting 100 PNMs and another chapter getting 300 while others could end up with 20 or 30. You have no way of knowing who is really interested in your chapter because none of the rounds are invitational and PNMs can attend as many as they want. You would have to do away with the Total/Quota system completely because how would you determine quota or make sure that chapters only took quota?

At smaller colleges/universities, this can work, but not at the larger ones. That is why NPC now has 4 different options available, with guidelines for each College Panhellenic to determine, with guidance from the NPC area advisor. At a campus with two or three groups where quota is typically less than 10, then an informal recruitment can work very well. There is flexibility with all this.

FuzzieAlum · #**122** 02-22-2007, 12:10 AM

I don't know whether it would be better or not, but if the guys manage to do rush that way at huge schools, surely we could too?

Drolefille · #**123** 02-22-2007, 12:44 AM

Part of the reasoning is that this will keep as many chapters healthy as possible. The IFC fraternities don't really seem to be interested in that. It is beneficial for sorority life in general if as many chapters as possible meet quota. There's a larger number of fraternities and, at least from what I've seen, a much greater mobility in the number of chapters on campus. Guys don't rush all of the chapters, just the ones they're interested in. This isn't in the benefit of all the chapters (in the NPC's opinion).

*shrug* it's kind of like saying, why don't we recruit like the D9? Because we don't.

33girl · #**124** 02-22-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzieAlum

I don't know whether it would be better or not, but if the guys manage to do rush that way at huge schools, surely we could too?

The difference is that most of the guys who rush don't go to every single fraternity. (I'm envisioning the guy at Penn State with 60 bids.)

PhoenixAzul · #**125** 02-22-2007, 01:25 PM

See, I don't think this would work even on a small campus like mine. I think that chapters would bid like crazy, and because girls are girls, they'd take a bid to a sorority that probably isn't their best fit, because it is "one of the best" (see also: Duke thread and Core Four). Then again, the institution of a ceiling would help as well. Dunno...maybe im just stuck in the "this is the way its been done" mode?

33girl · #**126** 02-22-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul

See, I don't think this would work even on a small campus like mine. I think that chapters would bid like crazy, and because girls are girls, they'd take a bid to a sorority that probably isn't their best fit, because it is "one of the best" (see also: Duke thread and Core Four). Then again, the institution of a ceiling would help as well. Dunno...maybe im just stuck in the "this is the way its been done" mode?

No, if anything, the fact that you think this wouldn't go over just proves it is a bad idea (i.e. because your campus is all local and not bound by "NPC says so").

33girl · #**127** 02-22-2007, 04:22 PM

That was for this rush period only. Who knows, next fall there may be a huge increase in interest in Greek life and quota may be set at 50.

Or there may be a huge decrease in interest in Greek life, and there may only be 40 women rushing. And they may all want the same group, and refuse to take bids from anywhere else.

I'm not quite sure I understand the "every chapter can only give out 16 bids on bid day" thing - if Accessories is as small as you said it is compared to the other groups, they should still be able to snap bid up to chapter total, whether this is a formal or informal rush. You cannot prevent a group from bidding up to total unless there are extenuating circumstances (like a colony on campus).

Drolefille · #**128** 02-22-2007, 04:52 PM

Doing it that way also leads to the problem of knowing where you are on the bidlist. I'd hate knowing I wasn't good enough for the first list but got a bid because I was a little further down.

violetpretty · #**129** 02-22-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Doing it that way also leads to the problem of knowing where you are on the bidlist. I'd hate knowing I wasn't good enough for the first list but got a bid because I was a little further down.

Exactly. And then PNMs might not want to take a snap bid because they don't want to feel like "sloppy seconds".

Drolefille · #**130** 02-22-2007, 06:01 PM

Exactly.

Or I could picture the split in a pledge class if you had really bitchy girls. The A group and the B group. Or anything. It's way better that no one really knows where on the list they are, and even the members don't have a concrete idea of where girls are, they're just thrilled to meet the newbies on bidday! All at the same time.

DeltaBetaBaby · #**131** 02-23-2007, 12:09 AM

Okay, while we are creatively restructuring recruitment, how about this idea:

PNMs rank.
Sororities receive PNMs' rankings.
Sororities choose X number of bids to give out (where X=quota calculated as number of PNMs/number of chapters)

Buttonz · #**132** 02-23-2007, 12:24 AM

My issue with the way things are done is when the PNM's have no say...meaning they have to keep on going back to chapters that they aren't interested in if it means without them, they wouldn't have a full schedule, and without a full schedule if they were able to have one, they aren't promised a bid. I would like to see that done away with.

ms_gwyn · #**133** 02-23-2007, 01:58 AM

i'm coming in late, but I wanted to say congratulations!

AnatraAmore · #**134** 02-23-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Okay, while we are creatively restructuring recruitment, how about this idea:

PNMs rank.
Sororities receive PNMs' rankings.
Sororities choose X number of bids to give out (where X=quota calculated as number of PNMs/number of chapters)

My only concern with this would be, would sisters see exactly how the PNMs rank? Or would there be a middle party? (Gamma Rho Chis or GA) Because I know that it's always a concern at our school that sisters will find out the PNMs ranked their group 2 or 3 on Pref lists and sisters being less than friendly to some of those girls...

FSUZeta · #**135** 02-23-2007, 05:28 PM

sangers, if you are a member of an npc sorority, your alumnae and the greek life advisor should be matching bids during formal recruitment-even if matching is done by a computer. unless that information is taken out of the bid matching area and shared with collegiate members(and if should not be) then the chapter should not know how their new member class ranked their choices.