Starting a KKG chapter

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by TSteven

Maybe I'm missing something, but how would an alleged interest group interested in Kappa Kappa Gamma be wrong in following one of Kappa Kappa Gamma’s procedures for extension? I suspect that Kappa Kappa Gamma follows NPC guidelines as well.

The following is from the link proved by AZ-AlphaXi regarding Kappa Kappa Gamma’s process on extension.



And above that quote, the Kappa Kappa Gamma website alludes to NPC policy.



(The bolding is mine)

If there are two or more NPC sororities on campus then the campus Panhel has to vote to accept another NPC sorority on campus.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by KDCat

The point was that a group of women cannot just call up an NPC sorority and invite them to campus. It's not like buying a McDonald's franchise. They have to go through the NPC expansion procedure.

If there are two or more NPC sororities on campus then the campus Panhel has to vote to accept another NPC sorority on campus. After that happens, NPC groups will send letters of interest and will make presentations regarding expansion.

Originally Posted by KDCat

If there are two or more NPC sororities on campus then the campus Panhel has to vote to accept another NPC sorority on campus.

Thanks. I do understand this. However, it seems that the NPC expansion procedure does allow a group of women to “request” (for lack of a better work) affiliation with a specific NPC sorority.

For example, under “Extension Information” listed on the NPC website, one of the "Inquiry Type" options is “I am a member of a local sorority/interest group that would like to pursue affiliation with an NPC group.” If it applies to the person's group making the inquiry, then they could continue to seek affiliation. If not, well it ends there.

In the Expansion Threads, there are posts noting NPC extensions where the local group wanted to affiliate with one specific NPC group. And there are NPC sorority members on Greek Chat who have discussed that their campus group petitioned (for lack of a better term) only one NPC sorority. So it has happed before.

I suspect these groups followed NPC protocol – contacted the campus panhellenic, college administration for approval. Also requesting and receiving approval by the NPC sorority HQ as well as the NPC Extension Committee. Maybe not in that order, but at some point, these groups signed off on the affiliation.

I understand this route to NPC affiliation is not the norm. However, as rigid as some may feel the NPC might be regarding affiliation, it seems like the NPC is willing to be flexible in certain situations.

[33girl]

This usually happens with groups that are religious interest or that have another sort of vested interest (i.e. 3 of the people in the interest group are members of ABC who transferred from another college and they're trying to start a new ABC chapter).

I mean if a group is calling themselves Epsilon Phi Alpha and they're all Jewish, any other NPC is probably going to get out of the way, no matter how desirable the campus is, because it's obvious what the group is looking for. If all a group can say about why they want a certain sorority is what the OP has outlined in his original post, that's usually not enough to 1) make other NPCs get out of the way or 2) impress the group they want enough to make them overlook any questions or issues they might have with the IG/college panhellenic/campus in general.

In other words, pinning all your hopes on one NPC is counterproductive and stupid. A lot of times women think "XYZ is at Big State U. If we bring XYZ here to Moo Cow College, it will create the kind of Greek life they have at Big State U." It just doesn't work that way.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by TSteven

I suspect these groups followed NPC protocol – contacted the campus panhellenic, college administration for approval. Also requesting and receiving approval by the NPC sorority HQ as well as the NPC Extension Committee. Maybe not in that order, but at some point, these groups signed off on the affiliation.

The key, though, is that all of those groups have to agree. It's not up to the PNMs. I just watched the expansion process at Washington University in St. Louis. After the sororities made their presentation, the Expansion Committee voted, and then the faculty/administration voted, and then Panhel voted. All of those groups had to agree before a group was invited to colonize.

To me, the real wildcard was the faculty/administration approval. Faculty/adminstration have their own ideas and do their own thing sometimes. The faculty at my brother's college refused campus recognition for Campus Crusade for Christ, but allowed the same group of students to affliate with InterVarsity. It's still a mystery to me. I could totally see a campus administration deciding it would rather have one philanthropy over another, or one member development program over another, or rather have a historically Jewish sorority over a historically Christian sorority for diversity reasons.

In other words, pinning all your hopes on one NPC is counterproductive and stupid.

It's the same as regular recruitment. You really limit your chances of success if you have preconceived notions about what groups are acceptable and you limit yourself to only one choice.

[amIblue?]

TSteven - You're also assuming that the NPC organization wants to be at the school.

[edmund]

https://www.murraystatejobs.com/postings/1339
Looks like Murray State is looking for a COORDINATOR OF GREEK LIFE AND STUDENT ORGANIZATIONS.

[DubaiSis]

Once they have a coordinator of Greek Life who is actually in charge things could change wildly, especially if that person knows what he/she is doing. I could see some scenarios where expansion could happen. The one that jumps to mind first is chapter total is currently 90 and the chapters work within that structure, but they'd really PREFER for total to be 60. Or 50. But that doesn't answer why they haven't just lowered total, except for a lack of leadership to tell them to do the obvious.

But when Edmund posted the job opening, what I thought of is the OP is applying for that job and was doing his research. And if that's the case, we provided him a MOUNTAIN of knowledge about how it works.

[AZTheta]

DS. we might have provided the OP with "a MOUNTAIN of knowledge", but I'm willing to bet it isn't going to be processed, retained, or applied. That observation is based on his responses in this thread to the posts by a variety of GC members.

[DubaiSis]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

DS. we might have provided the OP with "a MOUNTAIN of knowledge", but I'm willing to bet it isn't going to be processed, retained, or applied. That observation is based on his responses in this thread to the posts by a variety of GC members.

I agree completely. Information provided doesn't mean information absorbed. I guess we'll have to have a spy on the look out for a gay fraternity man as the new head of Greek Life at this school. It is possible he really was just playing devil's advocate to see what the responses would be to use them to his advantage. But I doubt it. Who knows?

[DubaiSis]

Thanks. That was interesting. It seems urban campuses are really latching onto Greek life lately (I'm thinking of the Chicago schools in particular as examples), so maybe there's a change in thinking about what it means to go to a commuter school and the desired level of personal attachment to that school. And I can think of several reasons why more relatively small chapters makes more sense than fewer mammoth ones, the biggest being the size of available meeting spaces.

[amIblue?]

Thanks for the insight. I hope all the chapters thrive.