Saddam Hussein sentenced to death - Page 4

cutie_cat_4ever · #46 11-07-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Maybe I just don't find it appealing to let the guy sit in prison with free meals and a bed to sleep in every night.

Is it where part of our tax money goes to?

AlphaFrog · #47 11-07-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kstar

Many prisoners find religion in prision, when they do, they usually know they were wrong and want their G*d to punish them for it. It isn't up to you to judge, if they find G*d, then they should be allowed to follow all of the tenets of their chosen religion.

Why? Why should they be afforded more consideration then they afforded their victim? What if their victim was part of one of those religions where the body must be whole, yet the murderer decapitated the victim??

You're right, it's not up to me to judge...but it is up to the legal system to judge.

kstar · #48 11-07-2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Why? Why should they be afforded more consideration then they afforded their victim? What if their victim was part of one of those religions where the body must be whole, yet the murderer decapitated the victim??

You're right, it's not up to me to judge...but it is up to the legal system to judge.

Maybe because I think that we as a society should be more humane than those that take lives? Maybe because I view all life as precious?

And the legal system obviously thinks that prisioners should be accorded the right to have their death observed in accordance to their religion.

macallan25 · #49 11-07-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Is it where part of our tax money goes to?

Did you mean, "isn't it where part of our tax money goes to?". I think taxes are another issue all together, and actually I don't know what you are tyring to get at with this.

Frankly, I find it appaling that you would consider the lives of horrendous murderers as precious as the innocent people that they brutally killed. It would be hard to convince me that it is better to be humane and let them live out the rest of their lives.

texas*princess · #50 11-07-2006, 11:05 PM

... if he has already been sentenced to death, why does it matter if they do the other trials? even if he's found innocent on other actions, does it matter if he's already been sentenced to die?

PM_Mama00 · #51 11-08-2006, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kstar

Maybe because I think that we as a society should be more humane than those that take lives? Maybe because I view all life as precious?

And the legal system obviously thinks that prisioners should be accorded the right to have their death observed in accordance to their religion.

_Opi_ · #52 11-08-2006, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by centaur532

Rather, that being put to death now just seems like a cop-out. After everything he's done, death by hanging just doesn't seem enough. I feel like there should be more punishment. I don't condone the death penalty personally, but that's just the culture I was raised in.

You literally took the words out of my mouth..err..head..whatever.

I think he should rot in prison for the rest of his life..that is more of a punishment than death penalty. To me, at least.

macallan25 · #53 11-08-2006, 01:15 AM

I dunno......being executed is pretty harsh punishment. IN MY OPINION (sorry, didn't know if DeltAlum was reading this or not.)

AlexMack · #54 11-08-2006, 03:00 AM

Today I saw a good friend of mine who came home from Iraq last week. He was showing me the pictures of Iraq, Fallujah, dead insurgents, one of Saddam's palaces. It made me angry to see the latter, to see how he lived when we know how his people suffered under his tyrannical rule. And it made me feel sick.
My friend told me that he'd laughed when he heard Saddam got the death penalty and that he hoped it was televised. I also saw the video memorial to his fallen comrades and I heard him choke up as he showed me a picture of the remains of a suicide bomber who had taken out a marine who was literally 15 minutes away from leaving Fallujah and catching a flight to Kuwait to come back home here.

Now I don't know what to think. I hate the death penalty but should anyone be allowed to live after taking the life of another? Don't you sacrifice your right to life when you take away another's voluntarily? You've deprived that person of a future. Why should you be allowed yours?
I don't know, I think I'm really conflicted about this now.

_Opi_ · #55 11-08-2006, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by centaur532

I hate the death penalty but should anyone be allowed to live after taking the life of another? Don't you sacrifice your right to life when you take away another's voluntarily? You've deprived that person of a future. Why should you be allowed yours?

Let's bring this back home. If I recall correctly, the American government especially our "leader of the free world", has taken lives, innocent lives, deprived people of their future for the sake of their "freedom". What should their punishment be?

I just saw a video of the first innocent victims of operation free iraq, or whatever the name to this operation was. No intended targets hit. All civilians.

Kind of puts things in perspective, don't it?

As an aside, I don't support death penalty. That stance is not going to change anytime soon.

macallan25 · #56 11-08-2006, 05:51 AM

I think for you to compare this war, or any war for that matter......to the execution of serial killers and murderers through the legal system is rather idiotic.........its a war......innocent people are going to die. Please name me a campaign in which innocent people/civilians didn't get killed.

_Opi_ · #57 11-08-2006, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

I think for you to compare this war, or any war for that matter......to the execution of serial killers and murderers through the legal system is rather idiotic.........its a war......innocent people are going to die.

I thought the topic hear was about the death penalty of Saddam. He is part of the legal system now..unless I'm mistaken??

Here's my take:

Collateral damage = death of innocent people
Tyrranical murders= death of innocent people
War=death of innocent people
Lying about reasons for going to war=death of innocent people

Sorry I didnt say anything you want to hear, Macallan. Maybe some other time, eh.

AlexMack · #58 11-08-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by _Opi_

Let's bring this back home. If I recall correctly, the American government especially our "leader of the free world", has taken lives, innocent lives, deprived people of their future for the sake of their "freedom". What should their punishment be?

I just saw a video of the first innocent victims of operation free iraq, or whatever the name to this operation was. No intended targets hit. All civilians.

Kind of puts things in perspective, don't it?

As an aside, I don't support death penalty. That stance is not going to change anytime soon.

I don't disagree. When we first started talking about war, I was naive enough to believe Bush. However, as time as progressed, we've all seen him and this war for what it really is.
Iraq is a giant mess, there's no denying it. And I am ashamed for the behaviour of US soldiers. Not all, but some. But talking to Jeff reminded me of how I act on my job, the things we say and do which the general public would be so shocked about. And it's all coping mechanisms or destressing. (I'm an EMT, by the way.)
Is killing innocent civilians a coping mechanism or destressor? Hell no. But no 20 year old should see his buddies fall down beside him in combat either. None of this kids (let's face it, they are) should be there, especially those are who are dying for a country that has not granted them citizenship yet.

I do think serial killers and murderers and Saddam are of a different variety than war casualties. This by no way demeans innocent lives lost in the war. I certainly do not approve of the way some soldiers have acted. But I think that the losses in Iraq should be judged on a different level than individuals.

shinerbock · #59 11-08-2006, 01:40 PM

Holy crap. You people are ridiculous. YOUR PARTY VOTED FOR THE WAR. If you buy the "well, our democratic leaders were misled by Bush," then you're an idiot. People in this country just have no stomach for war anymore. Its ironic, considering that people are yelling about Darfur, but as soon as we do something and people get hurt, we're gonna demand a pullout.

KSig RC · #60 11-08-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532

I don't disagree. When we first started talking about war, I was naive enough to believe Bush. However, as time as progressed, we've all seen him and this war for what it really is.
Iraq is a giant mess, there's no denying it. And I am ashamed for the behaviour of US soldiers. Not all, but some. But talking to Jeff reminded me of how I act on my job, the things we say and do which the general public would be so shocked about. And it's all coping mechanisms or destressing. (I'm an EMT, by the way.)
Is killing innocent civilians a coping mechanism or destressor? Hell no. But no 20 year old should see his buddies fall down beside him in combat either. None of this kids (let's face it, they are) should be there, especially those are who are dying for a country that has not granted them citizenship yet.

What?